2007 New Year's TOA discussion - Page 11

*Mistress Sheena* · 06-26-2007, 02:42 PM

I think it'd be best to contact Cesar, whether it be by email, PM, or what have you. Though I think once this is done, I'll just go ahead and send him a text message on his cell, and say that the judging is done, and to just put up the next round or whichever.

I also like the way you commented on their strategies and whatnot. I should have done that too. =P

Musicmuse · 06-26-2007, 06:19 PM

Post 1 :: Anomaly

First off, props for the setting. I know that the setting was your creation, and I thought that the description and history was well thought out and interesting. One thing that did distress me, though, was that in your character bio and in this first post, you state that Aria's brother has the bul of the magical ability of the two, and yet throughout the fight it seems that Aria is an all-powerful mage with seemingly no limits to her powers. Descriptions were very detailed, though, so that is a plus.

Post 1 :: Fuji/Vicky

I liked the interaction between the two characters initially, but one thing that I noticed is that Kage seemed to be trained in everything. He knew the planet from a previous experience, and he had trained blindfolded which nulified the main obstacle of the planet. Not that it's out of teh scope of your character, but I guess I just found it to be less entertaining when your character seemed to be prepared for anything that might arise. I did, however, really enjoy the insight into your character's thought process and his logic in wanting to "test" the opposition.

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Post 2 :: Anomaly

It was at this point that I noticed that you two were writing in different verb tenses. This was somewhat distracting, but I suppose it's a personal preference thing. One positive for both of you is that you stuck to your guns and didn't switch tenses in the middle of battle or anything. Good description of the attack, Anomaly, and a good forethought about the attack in anticipation of a counter.

Post 2 :: Fuji/Vicky

More detailed writing here, and an appropriate counter for Anomaly's attack. I also liked that the two forces negated each other rather than just having your own attack overpower Anomaly's. Nice touch and realistic as well.

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Post 3 :: Anomaly

I liked the use of your poison attack, and was relieved to see it in your character bio. Continuity is a must. One criticism, however, is that I thought the extended description of what the attack did was unnecessary since it IS in your bio. However, the effect was described to range from mild blindness to almost complete paralysis, and yet when you used it you assumed it would only work with its full potency.

Post 3 :: Fuji/Vicky

Well, the attack you used in this post is debatably god-modding, I thought. The only reason I say this is that you seem to be very cautious about putting any special moves you use in bold, and yet this move was just sort of used without an explanation of where it came from. The only thing I could come up with was that it was possibly the "Yami Illusion" attack and you forgot to add that in your post. Either way, I thought the creativity of teh attack was good, I just wasn't wild about its appearance so suddenly.

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Post 4 :: Anomaly

You seemed to semi-agree with me, here. You seemed frustrated with the move but rolled with it. You both used OoC blurbs in your posts which I think could have been resolved by PMing each other, but whatever. I would have been siding with you at this point had you not engaged in some god-modding of your own. You took potency away from Kage's attack rather than countering it or using something YOUR character did to negate it. I would have been alright with a thought that it SHOULD be getting weaker, but to just make an opponent's attack weaker of your own free will seems a bit over-the-top to me.

Post 4 :: Fuji/ Vicky

This is what I was taling about. Kage logically concludes that Aria's attack should probably not be effective, but doesn't just say it fails or something to that effect. Not only that, but after a fight with all of these magical attacks being thrown around, someone finally gets injured... it was about time, haha.

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Post 5 :: Anomaly

I loved the description of how Aria looked as she plummeted toward Kage. Beautiful description, you made it very easy to picture what was happening. Like I said in the first post of yours, this is the point where Aria is starting to overstep the abilities she should have. She doesn't appear to be getting weaker, and to be blunt she's actually getting stronger the longer the fight goes on... not exactly realisitc for the "weaker" of your two fighters.

Post 5 :: Fuji/ Vicky

More injuries, and thankfully so. Your fighter is starting to verge on desperate, and I would be too if I were fighting a seemingly unstoppable foe. Kage's energy is waning, and he is showing visable signs of fatigue.

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Post 6 :: Anomaly

I'm not sure what you were thinking at this point, Anomaly, and I mean that without any sort of malicious intent. Kage has become tired and injured, and yet even still every attack he tries to direct at Aria is unsuccessful. This is way too god-moddish for me at this point, and although your descriptions are stunning and your detail appealing, I just can't get past your indestructable character.

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Result:

As you can guess by now, the clear winner is Fuji/Vicky. Both put up a good fight in the thread, but Anomaly's constant god-modding toward the end of the fight can't be overlooked. Great writers, you both, but Fuji/Vicky gets the clear edge when it comes to believability and following the tournament rules.

*Mistress Sheena* · 06-26-2007, 06:54 PM

Ah, I was afraid Yami Illusion would be thought as semi-god moding. I'll refrain from using it in the future. Thanks for pointing that out to me.

And I did forget to mention it in the post. >.>;

Though, hopefully the Aliens/Gods will heal Kage, or age him by 6 months, because that's how long it takes for him to regenerate. x.x;

And as far as being trained in a lot of things, he is 100+ years old, and a sort of space adventurer type person with a crew of friends and such, but those days were like 50 years ago and such, and most of his crew members have passed on. Though I do now agree that experiencing something from Anomaly's planet was a bit much and took away some of the fun of being blinded.

But anyway, it was a good battle, and I honestly wasn't expecting all that god moding. I just tried to tough it out till the round ended.

Anomaly · 06-26-2007, 11:39 PM

I am affronted by the accusations of God-modding as that would be grounds for not only a loss, but outright disqualification. I thought the idea was conveyed that she was putting everything she had into it (being driven into a berserker state, which last time I checked WAS a negative status) and that one well placed attack that was worth anything would make her burn out completely. A flame flickers brightest before it is extinguished. If creatiuvity is the main factor, as it states it is in the rules for this torunament, I should think a little insanity should be over looked.

Still, I imagine someones going to have to approve all these judgements before the next round of fights is created anyways.

With that in mind, here is my judgement upon Overdriven v. psiko.
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Post 1
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Overdriven
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A nice pick up from the last round. I really liked the emotions welling up in the character, but I thought the last paragraph kind of ruined that sense of outrage and desolation. I thought the description of the environment was far too brief as theres no real established view of where your character is specifically in the rather elaborate landscape provided. An extensive description might've gotten in the way of the characters introspection, but its important to establish yourself in the environment at the beginning of the battle so as not have to take up fighting time later with throwing in a few details here and there.

Psiko
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A much more extensive description of the new environment, even if it still not used to a tactical advantage. I liked the emotion displayed by the character here as regards the apprent 'ghost sequence' from his past over lapping the real world, and would've liked to have seen this drawn out a little more. Not a bad opening strike and honestly at this point psiko is looking to be a favorite in this fight.

Post 2
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Overdriven
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I liked the description of your opponent and the characters corrisponding reaction. It's very believable, though one would expect a less calculated follow up attack if the audience is to believe your character is feeling anger over an 'unjust' attack. It's all very neat, but if I had any complaint it would be that your characters response is a little TOO neat. Still, a familiar environment might do that for you.

Psiko
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I thoroughly loved this post right up to the end, where your character decides the environment is tactically useless. This feels less like a decision your character has reached and more a decision that you, yourself, have come to. This is bad, as even in an environment that is geared completely against you, there can be found a strategy that can be used to your advantage. If your opponent is weighed down with a heavy weapon and you are lithe as the tiger, burning bright with blood splattered rage, you could attempt to lure your enemy near to the river of blood and push him in. Failing that, you could've used cat like stealth to steal into the shadows of the castle and strike at your enemy as a big cat would a chittering monkey in a thicket. A head on attack just doesn't feel right here and it doesn't seem like you put a lot of thought into what you were doing.

Even with that reprimand, Psiko still feels like the stronger RPer at this point.

Post 3
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Overdriven
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This is where the opera falls apart. The description of your character and your enemies clash is flawless which is extremely important in this kind of tournement. Your characters reaction and subsequent strategy, utilizing the environment was an excellent decision. I have to admit, I wasn't suprised at all by the 'weapon' that appeared when you were summoning it, and I thought that was a nice touch of humor, showing a flaw(in a good way) in a character that had earlier appeared far too fortunate.

My only regret is there is no third post from Psiko to show how his character would react to this.
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So to sum it up.

Creativity: It looked like Psiko was the more creative of the two combatants right up to the end, where he dropped the ball. Luckily Overdriven seems to have picked it up in his stead

Detail: Psiko had the better detail in two out of two posts. Overdriven had better detail in one out of three. One out of three IS bad.

Flow: Neither combatent seemed ot have any major flow issues. Everything seemed very clear to me. Overdrivens last post was a little clunky, but that was more due to the length of the post.

Grammer: No major gramatical errors that I could find, thoguh Psiko seemed a little comma happy now and then.

Final Judgement: If I had seen more from Psiko, I might be giving a completely different judgement, but in light of Psiko falling out of the tournement and his last post as compared to Overdrivens last post, I am inclined to rule in favor of Overdriven.

Overdriven · 06-27-2007, 01:46 AM

Okay, that makes our four decisions. Now we must get ahold of Cesar, and figure out if he can begin the next round, or would like one of us to set up the threads we need.

You text him Vickeh?

*Mistress Sheena* · 06-27-2007, 08:55 AM

No, not yet. As I was asleep by the time you posted that. =P
I just woke up right now and read the results. I'll text him right now and see if he can look over our peer edits and confirm the results.

*Psiko* · 06-27-2007, 12:57 PM

I'd like to step in and object to the accusations of Anomaly god-modding. IMHO what he did in the battle was not god-modding, and I take offense that you would consider it to be so.

He left an out from the attack. He never said that the attack landed. GWF has every opportunity to creatively dodge. After all, isn't that what this tournament is all about, being creative?

Having just re-read the thread, if I were to be consulted, the battle would go to Anomaly.

This difference of opinions is why peer judging is not a good idea. The tourney is dead. Continue battles or start new ones in the RPB forum if you are itching for a battle with each other.

Anomaly, Overdriven...I'd gladly face either of you. Just ask.

*Mistress Sheena* · 06-27-2007, 01:17 PM

Yes, he never said the attack landed on me. But that's not the only form of god moding, and you know that. =P

And with my char's injuries in mind, and the speed Anomaly was going, would it even be plausible for my character to nullify or dodge his attacks? Heck no.

Where as I've taken injuries from his attacks, has he from mine? None whatsoever, at all. He's always dodged or absorbed them.

But that's not what's important here. If you feel Anomaly was better, than that's fine. I'm not going to complain with difference in opinions. Obviously not everyone is going to agree to everything.

Though I suppose you're right. The tourney is dead. x_x;

The dream matches, or matches or whatever could just continue in the RPB forum.

And oh yes, one thing though. Creativity, does not, and never will, override god moding. Sure, Anomaly was very creative, but clearly he also god moded.

Musicmuse · 06-27-2007, 01:30 PM

I just gave my opinion on the battle. Take offense or don't; I don't care. In my eyes it was god modding, in someone else's it might not be. The fact is that I was the peer judge for the battle and as such I had to judge the battle to the best of my abilities.

If you'd like the battle to be judged by an official of the tournament, be my guest. It doesn't hurt my feelings or sway my judgement on the battle. I was just fulfilling my assigned duties.

They're both excellent writers and perhaps there are things about a tournament I'm unfamiliar with, but I did make a point to look over their profiles and the rules and see what the criteria are supposed to be for judging a thread. I thought my comments were constructive and appropriate, but I do realise that the tournament was not originally envisioned to have peer editors.

Feel free to throw my critique out the window -- Let someone with more experience judge the thread if it will make both parties happy. I'm just not going to take any sort of brow-beating for simply trying to move the tournament forward by judging a fight as accurately as I could.

*Mistress Sheena* · 06-27-2007, 01:39 PM

Yeah. I'm pretty much under the same mindset.
If Spike or Cesar want to go ahead and judge them anyway, go ahead.
This was just to speed things up and get it going again.

I -could- contact Spike on AIM, but I'm not sure if he's busy or not. But... either way...

The tournament is technically supposed to be over and done with by now. It's so behind in schedule it's not even funny.

I think it's best just to continue the matches in the RPB forum, if anyone wants to. This season's TOA is dead.

Anomaly · 06-28-2007, 10:56 AM

So what, you got your lacky to judge in your favor then, just because you can't compete with me? Don't mistake someone being better than you as God-modding. All you had to do was step up, and I would've taken damage from you. As it was I was having to rip MYSELF apart to take ANY damage in that fight (as I did) which ytou might note was a result of your little hallucination spell. Which I might further add you made undodgable, and to ME thats more God-modding than just presenting a powerful character...a strong challenge...a character thats worth more than two posts!

I will not accept Musicmuse's judgement unless it is fully approved by Lococolt.

But as the common concensus is that this tournement is dead...I won't make further issue of this unless the tournement is slated to continue. Instead I will remember this...and use this lesson for the next tournament, which I will assure you I WILL be in.