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I just saw it. In terms of storyline... the movie was completely BUNK!

There was some beautiful imagery (and I'm not speaking about the muscular abs... I like my men thin, tall and PALE!). The bright colors (like the red of the Spartan cloaks) against a primarily mono-chromatic background were gorgeous.

However, I just can't get past the actual story... complete bollocks...
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Yeah I think the movie definitely lacks in terms of storyline..but at the same time, I don't think it was a movie really going for having a good storyline. I mean essentially it was a movie about a battle, and I think it accomplished it's job at being a somewhat mindless action film with some over dramatic acting and beautiful imagery. I mean I'd say it's definitely entertaining, the movie purposely wasn't going for the historical epic kind of thing and was offering something very different.
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Even so, I still don't think it was that great. If it isn't meant to be historically accurate, then it's nothing more than a historical rip off that had no original ideas of its own...save for that thing with cleavers for hands, whatever that was supposed to be.
Well, if that's the case, alot of classic movies are "ripoffs". Take the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for example. There was no actual guy running around with a chainsaw screaming like he was a four year old. It's based on Ed Gein...and the movie is a classic.

I guess it's good news for you, then. You can save money on movie tickets and just sit at home watching the history channel. Whatever works for you, I guess.
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Yeah I think the movie definitely lacks in terms of storyline..but at the same time, I don't think it was a movie really going for having a good storyline. I mean essentially it was a movie about a battle, and I think it accomplished it's job at being a somewhat mindless action film with some over dramatic acting and beautiful imagery. I mean I'd say it's definitely entertaining, the movie purposely wasn't going for the historical epic kind of thing and was offering something very different.
Well, as I said in posting my review it's some times not how great how a story is written, it's how a story is told. And that's the director's job to bring the imagery from the script to life and even though the story was definitely "not that strong", Zack did a great job telling it. He's good at making entertainment . That was pretty much the movies purpose like you said.
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Well, if that's the case, alot of classic movies are "ripoffs". Take the Texas Chainsaw Massacre for example. There was no actual guy running around with a chainsaw screaming like he was a four year old. It's based on Ed Gein...and the movie is a classic.

I guess it's good news for you, then. You can save money on movie tickets and just sit at home watching the history channel. Whatever works for you, I guess.
Texas Chainsaw Massacre...classic? Haha. Whatever works for you I suppose. I lke the fact that you're trying to call me a loser for having a different opinion about a movie. Anyways, I didn't mean that no movie should be made based on historical events. What I meant by that is that if it is they should say it is and try to be true to what happened. 300 did a very good job of not mentioning Thermopylae, which is silly. Anyways, historical issues aside, I still didn't really like it. It was okay, but nothing revolutionary in my opinion. What're you going to do?
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You took that all wrong. Granted, TCM is a terrible example of "originality", you have to look at a few key things. Movies are not original, period. That is just the way things are. Texas Chainsaw Massacre= a guy running around killing people. Where have I seen that before, oh wait, yeah, in all the Friday the 13th and Halloween movies. 300 is just another example of "A bunch of soldiers killing another bunch of soldiers". Honestly, if you don't like a movie because of originality, then there is no reason to watch any modern movies. They are all basically "Same Idea, different story".

Other than that, I have nothing to add to the discussion other than the fact I want to see this movie . I love movies based on Greek stuff .

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I'll say it again: Putting historical issues aside, I still didn't think the movie was that great. Not worth the hype that people are giving it anyways. Then again, this was more an action movie than a true epic (which I had been expecting) and I'm not that big a fan of action movies. So I guess we'll just agree to disagree. Or fight endlessly over nothing, either or.
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I wasn't implying that you were a loser because you have a different opinion. To each his own. I was just stating that everything has been done before in Hollywood and it'll continue to go that way.

As far as the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, yes, it is a classic and that is a fact. Not opinion. I'm not talking about the remake. I'm talking about the original. Now if I said it's the best movie ever made, it'd just be my opinion.

The original Texas Chainsaw Massacre paved the way for alot of horror films in it's class. Try an experiment. Ask the next person you see if they know what the Texas Chainsaw Massacre is. Then ask them if they've ever heard of a movie called Altered States.

It's just a fact.
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i am a marine so seeing that movie was hardcore motivation. reading about the spartans is awesome they were an amazing culture and the movie flippin rocked
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Man I cannot wait to see this movie.

I keep hearing that it kicks ass. Im goanna see this tomorrow hopefully it will rock.
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I'm just lolling at all the people who rag on it for historical or "political" implications. Whatever though.

I didn't really pay attention to media much (I have no TV in my room either), but I thought the movie was enjoyable. I really liked how beautiful many of the scenes were with the vibrant colors (obv), but a lot of the acting via 'character development' was over the top and ridiculous.

I also ended up cracking up for most of the movie for some random reason that I probably shouldn't have. Overall, it was enjoyable. Good for the action, not much else. I liked how they did some stuff with the phalanx because I kind of studied it before, lol.

That being said, my friends and I enjoy drunken times with shouts of "THIS IS SPARTA" and kicking someone over the couch. +10pts lolz.

I'd watch it again. Sans ridiculous sex scene.
I just saw this movie, well like 8 hours ago... lol but I liked it. It entertained me for the 2.5 hours that I was sitting in my seat gazing at the screen. As Misa points out here, I too laughed at certain points in the movie, during inappropriate times, lol. Iono it was just funny seeing them do what they did, maybe I have a sick sense of humor =P

As for it being historically accurate or whatever? I didn't mind it at all. I mean I knew it was based off a true story, but told by Frank Miller, so you'd expect some kind of fiction to it right?

Also about the 300 bodyguards bit..

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Leonidas does not give up however and decides to use his personal body guards (300 of the best warriors that are under direct command) to fend off the Persian army.
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which did number 300, but it was made up of 300 volunteers (a status given to men who had at least one male heir).
Yup, both of those happened, well in the movie anyways. =P When they're about to set out, you see them in the fields together, where Leonidas is giving his speech as to why they're there. They were volunteers that his captain I guess recruited and he made sure they had heirs to their names to go and defend Sparta. Later when "officals" come to see him wondering what they're about to do, Leonidas just refers to them as his Personal bodyguards that are following him as he goes for a stroll. Which I thought was kinda funny =P but yeah so in a sense both of you are right, in terms for the movie.. as for actual historical value? Iono.. >.>;

All in all, I thought the movie was good, some things that were kinda strange was that dude with the cleaver arms, iono why he needed cleaver arms, lol, that and the Persian women were ugly =P haha. I'd see the movie again, it was pretty good with some funny One Liners
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in a sense both of you are right, in terms for the movie.. as for actual historical value? Iono.. >.>;
I hate to come across as arrogant, but as I said; history major, taken many courses in classics, read the works of Cartledge, Forrest, studied the works of Xenophon, Thucydides, etc... therefore, y'know, I know I'm right. I just really don't want t