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[Andromeda]

You answer up all the questions I had with what you posted in your post. So I find nothing that is conflicting, seems interesting indeed. I did wonder about the Wild Magic, for which I am glad to see you explain it. That would have been my only concern, but you explain well.

Only thing I might say is that Spirit Dragons are very well gifted in magic, so the ease to which they were killed seems unrealistic even in spite of being caught off guard. The Spirit Dragons as I saw them, were the closest in touch with magic, to such as point where one questions if they might have some form of magic within them in a pure essence sense. Not to mention they are Dragons, making them of immense size and endurance. It does not make them invincible, though the relative ease that they were killed just seems too quick. Even taking into consideration the power of Wild Magic. Might be something you wish to consider. The Spirit Dragon race is more or less your baby now, since you have become the representative of them. But I just never imagined them being easily defeated by a magic spell.

Those are my thoughts.

Should prove very interesting though, you gave me a few things to think about as well. So we'll see how Loco posts and hopefully Shadow posts soon, because I really do not want to post until he has. Though if the wait becomes too long I will regardless.

[Merlin]

How about I make it a group of Wizards? The dragons fight valiantly for over 90 degrees, but in the end they were overwhelmed. That would actually make the justification for the path Franziska and Asuka chose even more realistic.. their parents were pooned by a ton of psychotic mages... ^_^

As for the fact that the two of them have zero magic capabilities and the race is known for being in touch with magic... they actually moved past that point. Magic in a sense is a "third party" element. Wizards use magical energy to do their dirty work. Wizards aren't actually "directly" affecting anything, magical energy is. In Franziska and Asuka, they have severed that third party and connect directly with nature.

Of course there is a downside to everything, right? They aren't invincible by any means. Together they are a force to be feared... Franziska on the offensive and Asuka blocking any attacks from opponents. The problem is, Asuka wouldn't hurt a fly. Sure she can block high-level magic and other forms of attack, but put her in a battle by herself and she'd just stand there and block constantly, never attacking her opponent. She might subdue the enemy by using nature to trap the person (such as vines to wrap the person up), but she wouldn't actually injure the enemy. Franziska is the exact opposite. She doesn't waste time defending attacks, for the most part. Her sole purpose is to eliminate her target at any cost. Hence the dual-edged sword. They are indeed quite powerful, but seperate them and you can take them out one-by-one(with a great deal of effort of course). This is why Asuka was so determined to find her sister. She knew better than to be walking around solo in the middle of the night with nobody to take up the offense. They are a team.

Hope that helps.. ^_^

[Andromeda]

Oh I have no problem with the two sisters, I was just addressing the parents. The two sisters I am perfectly fine with. We can call it another link in their evolution. But yeah, the sisters are fine. It was only the parents that I was discussing, since unless your parents were not really trained in the arts it could happen. Though I would imagine that they were pretty well trained and Wizards themselves on some degree. Not that they have to be.

Because it is true someone can have a lot of magic potential, but no training, they can get beat easily be anyone. I just never really saw their parents being like that. But if they were, that would be simple justification.

Oh and I meant to put this in the last post here, but did. I been giving degrees a relative term, and I think most of you have a pretty good idea its length relative to us. But I did the simple calculation to find out exactly.

One Degree = Four Minutes

Now naturally this will change as the Sun and Moon are not equally divided in night and day. But it is pretty close.

[Merlin]

Yeah, I already calculated that.. which is why I was using them. Lol!

Just divide 360 by 24 HRs and then by 60 MIN. 15 Degrees in an hour and each degree is 4 minutes. w00.

[Andromeda]

Yeah I figured you had figured out the calculation Merlin ^^. Though as I found out from Shadow, he thought it was an hour, despite that I thought I was pretty clear on what a degree meant. So it probably a good thing that I did clarify it for who ever was that did not know.

[Mistress Sheena]

Merlin's ideas don't really work for me..
I wouldn't know where to find the Magetary's daughter. o.O;

[Merlin]

Uh.. I told you how you found her. She was walking around town and you ran into her.. Its not rocket science or anything, dude. Anyways, its up to you to write something, I'm just trying to help out.

Oh and for anyone interested, minutes can be found by the function:
f(x)= 4X+0 <=> y=4X+0
where Y is the minutes and X is the degrees

Ex:
X=4
y=4(4)+0
y=16 --> 4 degrees is 16 minutes


LOL. Ok, so that was completely pointless to most people, unless you enjoy algebra, but hey.. I think its kinda cool.

[Andromeda]

I love Algebra. ^^ But isn't the zero reduntant Merlin? Though its as simple as times by 4 the degrees and you get minutes.

But I am wondering where is Loco's post, he said he was going to be posting. Hopefully it'll be soon, I am eager.

And Shadow, its called coincidence, that simple. Now you won't know that its her, but running into someone in a story is a coincidence that happens a lot. So its easy to use.

[Merlin]

Yeah, the 0 is redundant but I was keeping it in standard y=aX+b form

Oh and that formula would require you to know the degrees to figure out the minutes, so a better formula would be:

f(x)=0.25X <=> y=0.25X
where Y is degrees and X is minutes

This would actually be useful if you wish to find the degree for some off-number, such as 45 minutes.

y=0.25x
y=0.25(45)
y=11.25 degrees

Of course, you could do it the simple way and just do
45/4= 11.25.. but that's cheating!

EDIT: Here's something interesting I've been thinking about. If races such as the Spirit Dragons are so in touch with magic, why do they accept the principle of the Degree System of time, which is inherently flawed, to some extent? Time Wizards alike should have discovered by now that the world isn't so easily divisible.

Although not entirely accurate, the principle of Degrees for measuring time is intriguing for a society that is apparently not extremely advanced. Their knowledge of higher-order math is quite apparent. They realized that the world rotates around its Z-axis once a day. Of course we know that it technically doesn't take "exactly" one day for a complete rotation, which is one flaw in their beliefs, unless they add an extra day every few years. But think about it. If they divided the day into 360 degrees or 2 pi, they realize the world must be round and is constantly rotating. A cube rotating around its Z-axis would completely distort the degree theory from the perspective of a viewer of space. Sure, technically it is still 360 degrees, but day and night would be completely awry.

Speaking of day and night, that is their main flaw. Anyone can tell that the sun is out longer than the moon, so assuming that sun=pi and moon=pi is completely ridiculous. The only justification for its acceptance is that the nations refuse to change the system. They know it isn't entirely accurate, but they have no desire to change what they think is working. Such as the US which still uses a different system of measurement than every other major country.

But anyways, if they understand higher-order math to the extent to discover this information, it makes you wonder why they are stuck in such a technologically-limited society, doesn't it? Sure, our own researchers discovered this stuff a long time ago, but look how far we've come in such a short time.

Perhaps the realistic presence of magic debased the scientific community, unlike our world. In our world we scientifically proved that magic was hog-wash and that anyone claiming to be a wizard or witch was full of it. Unlike our world, magic DOES exist, so perhaps the focus of math and other sciences fell by the way-side in light of that. Instead of trying to use science to disprove the concept of magic, they used it to prove it and disprove anything that went against it. Therefore, they got stuck in a technologically-limited world due to their own ignorance to further truth.

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I guess the real question is why the hell am I thinking this far into it, eh? I don't know. I have a bad habit of psychoanylizing everything, for starters.. and my occasional desire to find conspiracy theories. But anyways, this is probably all psychobabble that is overkill to the RP, but its something to think about. It makes me wonder whats really going on behind closed doors in the various cultures of the story's planet.

I'll stop rambling now.. ^_^

[Andromeda]

Hehe, you had some fun Merlin. I already address half of what you talked about within my mind. It is inherit that the degree system is flawed primarily because it is a by sight method of telling time. With our own knowledge of the sun and moon time up changes, makes this flawed. Though even in spite of this, approaching the concept of degrees does not require higher math.

You actually do not even have to acknowledge the world is a sphere to work with the degree system. All you are acknowledging is that the sun and moon rise on one side and fall on the opposite side. Which is simple observation that everyone makes everyday.

However, deciding how many degrees there is in daylight and moonlight, considering 180 makes sense to us, we can say that is what they decided. Though they could have easily have picked 720 >.> Which is 12 hours of minutes. Or even picked 100 degrees. The fact that its decided to have 180 degrees, would have been pretty random. Though it does divide nicely, but so does 100. *shrugs*

And when was that device sailors used to navigate with. That worked on something close, though it measured the sun and used mirrors and you could figure out from the angle of the sun where in the world you were.

But yeah, ^^ it was fun reading what you had to say Merlin.

Though being Magically gifted does not make one Scientifically gifted. One does not imply the other. Just because the Spirit Dragons are magically in tune, does not make them a race of Newtons, Bores, and Einstens. ^^ Just makes them a race of Merlins (Arthur Merlin).

But there is a lot of things left to be seen. So...enjoy ^^

[LocoColt04]

Let's count all the ways in which I feel irresponsible!

Andro, look. I'm sorry if I've held up your RP for so long... I promise it's not that I don't want to participate, but I think I need to ease myself into the roleplay world with something not so serious.

It's not that I can't do the writing, but it's more like I'm not sure I want to be thrown into such a complex story until after I've done a few RPs. Like I said when I got here, I'm not a fan of RP. I want that to change. With something this serious, I can't just continue on with my RPB-esque style.

Tell you what. If your RP is still running strong (and it damn well better be) when I feel comfortable enough to write in it, we can brainstorm a way to work me into the plot. It's like in television, when new characters are introduced to the series. We can do something like that.

I'm really tired of holding you guys up, because I want to keep reading it as it progresses. So yeah, go on without me, and I'll keep in contact.

[Andromeda]

Its disappointing to hear that, but I guess it is good to know. I do not have wait on putting up my post then. I wish you would stay and post, but if you feel you must wait till you are confident I will not argue with you. Hope that you return to post in the RP soon. Having only 3 people in the RP is not something I am used to, though I have done it with 4, 3 just seems so few.

Since Loco said he is not going to be posting, my post will push us into the next day then. I had planned on posting today, just not as far. Oh well.