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Marijuana
Why do we look at creations from the Earth as 'bad'? Why? The answer is this- Because the government can't make any money off of it. Think of it... the government sells drugs which "help" you but have been proven to harm you... They tell you you NEED these drugs... but in truth you don't *need* them until you actually do them. THe government can't make money off of marijuana... people mihgt be like "Well if they sold it they can make a killing", when in actuality they can't... think about it... if marijuana were legal everyone would grow it and BAM no more income for the government... you grow a garden because you don't want to buy shit from the store... so you don't... and now that you grow your own pot you don't need to buy from government..
Think about it logically and not just the way most peopel think as "Pot's good and should be legalized" or the "Drugs are bad **** them" Think about it and tell me your honest opinion, not just about legalization, but marijuana in general. |
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actuallly the gov does make money off of it but not enough. because the shit you get here isnt the best as it is in other countries.and if the is made the good shit then it would be legal and the government would be makeing hella money. and if it were legal to smoke it in america they wouldnt be stupid enough to make it legal to grow it in america and if america had the good shit that you can only get from them and only from america then no one would really want to grow there own they would buy it because its the best.
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Actually, the major effects to the human mind that pot creates isn't THAT different than getting totally smashed (aka drunker than drunk). So they legalize drinking with rules to follow, but not pot unless you're old and ill and have it as a prescription to deal with whatever it is they need to deal with. I dunno if it's a specific condition or just old and ill in general (like, DEATHLY ill and they wanna die naturally at home or something). Sure a lot of bad can come from somking that stuff, but the same goes to drinking....so if Drinking is legal with conditions then why can't smoking weed be too?? A line HAS to be drawn SOMEWHERE. That's why things are the way they are. A line has to be drawn somewhere....so if they move the line to allow weed, then they'll say "well THIS drug does the same thing so why not allow THAT too?" and soon EVERYTHING will be allowed and more people will be freely messed and/or killed because of it. I know people are killed because a transaction of illegal properties go wrong, but I think more would be killed if they were allowed. They are doing to weed now EXACTLY what they did to booze when there was an alcohol ban YEARS and YEARS ago.....they hide it and do it anyway.
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Weed and Hash are both illegal because they are considered to be gateway drugs.
Infact alcohol is both more addictive and health damaging. People die everyday from drinking but noone dies from smoking unless they develop cancer or other lung/heart diseases. Also there are many other things you can do with a Marijuana plant than smoking. You can make paper, a Marijuana plantage will produce 10 times as much paper as a plantage with regular wood, plus Marijuana grows faster. Also it's a cure for quite many diseases, and is probobly the safest medical drug known to mankind (though it's hardly in use) You can make superstrong ropes of it, without polluting our planet with chemicals that are used in modern synthetical ropes. And uber cheap clothes and food, to give to for instance 3rd world countries who are in lack of those things. Anybody still thinking the Marijuana plant is bad?
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ALL good points, and they are used that way even still, I believe, just hard to find...
But are you sure you're not talking about tobacco?? I lived in KS for a while, saw all the tobacco plants and stayed there till they were ready to harvest sometime in August, mid august I believe it was. |
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Having completed courses on herbal healing and drugs, I feel I can offer my extensive knowledge to anybody who takes drugs, set with an opinion on if they should be legalised.
![]() The main, and most active chemical in Marijuana resources and drug usage is THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol, I remember that because I've had to spell it so many times, haha). Short-term affects of this chemical is marijuana can include problems with memory and learning, as well as distorted interpretation, extreme difficulty in thinking, problem solving and reasoning, a feeling of lost co-ordination. Smoking marijuana can also cause increased heart rate, another short-term effect, anxiety and even panic attacks. Scientists have discovered that THC changes the way in which sensory information gets into and is acted on by the "hippocampus"... This is a component of the brain's limbic system, and is absolutely crucial for learning, memory and the intergration of sensory experiences, with emotions, motivations, etc. Investigations into THC have proved that it suppresses nuerones in the information-processing system of he brain. In all, scientists and researchers have discovered that learned behaviors, which depend on the minds sensory system, also deteriorate with constant usage of the drug. Smking marijuana is much like smoking a normal cigarette, but with further and prelonged effect. Not only does it cause problems with the brain and the senses of the smoker, but it also results in coughing and phelgm, that many tobacco smokers experience. Continuing to smoke marijuana can lead to abnormal functioning of lung tissue. This is because constant inhalation of marijuana smoke can cause lung tissue to become damaged or broken. Regardless of the THC content, the amount of tar inhaled by marijuana smokers and the leve of "carbon monoxide" absorbed are three to five times greater then that of tabacco smokers. This may be due to marijuana users inhaling more deeply and holding the smoke in the lungs for a prelonged effect. Resaerch has shown us that babies born to women whom used marijuana during pregnancy display an altered responce to visual concept, increased tremours, and even a high-pitched cry. These all, built up, can indicate problems with the development of the child. During pre-school years, and infancy, marijuana-exposed children have been observed to have most behavioural problems, and to perform tasks of visual perception, language understanding, sustained attention span, and memory more poorly then nonexposed children do. With this said, I will now give a personal opinion on this topic. The government and health programs DO make money from drugs, such as marijuana, but not everybody needs it. For example, legalising marijuana for everybody to use would cause mayhem. Not only have scientists proved that the usage of marijuana leaves one with learning and memory difficulty, as well as impaired or failing vision and senses, but marijuana users are more likely to accept deviant behavioural problems, and aggression. This can lead to many "taking out anger" and such, on others, and that would increase abusive behavior, especially among college and high school students by ten fold. Medicinal marijuana can be used to help people, but in theory, if legalised, would surely be a crass mistake to which, I personally feel the government would come to regret. And what if pregnant women began using the drug? I mean, yeah, it happens anyway, but if these drugs were legalised and grown in common gardens, then wouldn't usage among all ages and conditions increase? I feel sorry for the child growning inside that woman's womb who will have to endure years of alteration in the brain just because his/her mother wasn't responsible enough not to smoke the drug. With this said, it leads me onto tobacco smokers, to which I also disagree with, but in the long-run is not as bad for a child as marijuana, so please, before anybody says to me "what about tobacco smokers whom are pregnant?" ... yeah, it's bad, but nowhere near as bad as the effects resulted from smoking marijuana. I don't think marijuana should be legalised. I think the only point of it should be for medicinal usage, and althoguh I myself have many friend whom smoke the drug, many of them have learning problems thanks to the drugs' high THC content. Legalising the drug will only make the worlds' already stupid teenagers more stupid. ![]() Although, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the drug whatsoever, in my personal opinion. I just think legalisation would be plain silly.
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I am sure, though the tobacco plant is quite similar but the fibre structure of the Marijuana plant is incredibly strong.
Tobacco can also be used to make paper but it won't produce that much plus the plants cost more to maintain, weed just needs to be planted and get sunlight.
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My baby's daddy's mom owned two plants, and in a book of drugs my mom let me have, it said the plants need to be carefully maintained with specific lighting, temperature, and moisture. It needs to be in a certain rage in order to produce good buds, which is what holds most of the THC (according to Tom). I tried it for a while, long before I got pregnant, and I'll never do it again. I would have panick attacks, as Chez said, my heart rate went off the wall, and I would always go into my own little world, clinging to Tom for dear life as a tumbled around in a little void. one time he left me at the creek to go eat dinner, as it was getting nightfall. I started seeing things and couldn't cross the creek, and helecopters kept circling over me. Tom needed to come get me and we bolted out of there. I think that was the last time I did that.
People with high blood pressure can die of weed from the speed effects on the blood system, actually over-work the heart and/or over heat the body, hot enough to kill. But, as you said, alcohol poisoning is just as deadly. Then again, Tom's mom can DRIVE just fine with it in her system, and said she's actually a better driver, and Tom, even though he's constantly exposed to it and a dedicated smoker himself, had made National Honor Roll three years in a row, including this year. So how can THAT be? HE's been exposed to the smoke his entire life, and God knows how long he's been an active smoker. |
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Simple, drugs, in general are bad. Bad in the sence that you loose your sence of Judgement. Under the influence, you could easily kill someone without even knowing. The goverment is looking out for everyone's best interest, they just wouldn't want a lot of innocent people dying just because some dude wanted to "relax".
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Well with many saying that is causes.. well pretty much stupidity... think about this however you want...
When I smoke before school I pay attention and become more creative than when I don't..... I like school when I'm stoned.... Anything? |
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Creative, perhaps. But memory and learning?
Sherry, as for Tom. Hm, strange. Maybe he's found a way to work around it a little because he's been using drugs for a long time? =\ Strange, maybe he's just special or something. ![]()
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I think alcohol is worse than marijuana... has there been any comparisons made between that and alcohol, instead of with tobacco?
I tried smoking it one time, didn't really do anything for me so I really don't care about it myself. I have nothing against it, it's just not something that interests me. |
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