WoW > FFXI ?

[Djinn]

Originally Posted by Sir Kenneth

And you are apparently a typical alliance player. Well to be honest the alliance isn't that much worse, but due to being more popular (mostly because of the night elves) it also attracts a larger crowd of idiots than the horde side does (will probably change when the blood elves are added to the fray...)

I didn't play much Alliance though. Originally I started out as a human paladin, but after a few weeks I changed to the horde side (troll hunter)

Ok i didn't mean the moron part, but it just annoys me when people say the alliance have more Morons, since its clearly not completely true, for example my server (laughing skull) is full of morons, horde and alliance!

As for the NE population, they seemed to die down a few months after release, we've started seeing a lot more gnomes and taurens on my server. Also undead population > any other population.

[Strong Bad]

Any recommendations as to which server to join? Or does it just automatically assign you to one...

My good friend setzer is actually Mailing me WoW for ... some.. unknown reason... Hurrah! Free game!


Yeah. Being Undead would be awesome!

I watched a couple of the Trailors on the WoW website.. the game looks sweet! Some of the landscapes are actually breath taking...

Have any of you participated in a 40 man mission thing? I watched in the trailor, they were taking on some Huge Dragon villian-guy... there were at least 40 players. Momma Mia!

[Djinn]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

Any recommendations as to which server to join? Or does it just automatically assign you to one...

My good friend setzer is actually Mailing me WoW for ... some.. unknown reason... Hurrah! Free game!


Yeah. Being Undead would be awesome!

I watched a couple of the Trailors on the WoW website.. the game looks sweet! Some of the landscapes are actually breath taking...

Have any of you participated in a 40 man mission thing? I watched in the trailor, they were taking on some Huge Dragon villian-guy... there were at least 40 players. Momma Mia!

Well if you wanna play alliance i'm on laughing skull and i can help you if you need it, I'm Djinn (60 hunter) or Prometheus (57 rogue) there. I don't really actively play my horde character anymore so if you wanna play horde i don't have a suggestion... although you could roll that on laughing skull so i can gank you muahaha.

The 40 man things are good the first few times you do it, like molten core, i've done that shit so much its just like a grind now haha. Blackwings Lair is ****ing awesome though, the encounters there are chaotic.

[Sean]

Laughing Skull is getting full, though.

So is Arthas and Mal'Ganis.

I would suggest Mal'Ganis for Horde because that's my Horde server, and I plan on playing it actively shortly.

I'm halfway considering talking to my friend Colin about us joining a new PvE server. No worrying about being ganked and no worries about crowding.

[Strong Bad]

Hmm.. I assume on these Neutral servers, that if you're not PvP and you're from opposite factions and you meet eachother... nothing too special happens, ehh?

I mean, They can't just ... attack you or anything? I guess not if it's not PvP. I heard you can't party together or stuff like that.. I assume you can still talk to eachother though..

Is there some kind of Trading System in the game?

I remember in RO, Pront was LOADED full of Merchs... Is it anything like that in WoW?

[Lover Boy]

FFXI used to > WoW. But now it doesn't, because my account got bah-leted.

No more Bleeka. Bleeker is still around, it's my friends mule..... ****er.

[Leroy]

Rofl.

WoW made me cry yesterday. I recently got my paladin to 60 ok? And then I test the public realm, and... They've murdered paladin's.

Seriously, all the workers at Blizzard play Shaman's, and enjoy pissing on the Alliance's would-be-best-class-if-it-weren't-for-the-fact-that-they-get-nerfd-every-single-patch paladin's >">

Now I have to play my gay priest. But it's all good, cause my friend plays his mage, and a mage+priest=ftw. I saw a Mage and Priest in pvp, took on like 5 horde characters. Was so funny, they slaughtered them with hardly any effort.

One thing that shit's me off about WoW. If you're not lvl 58, the game is boring. Until you're 58, no one takes you seriously (Like, you get alot of fags calling you noob in gen. chat) When you ARE 58, you can just run instances like UBRS, Scholo, Strat etc for all your best gear, and then gradually make it 60 that way.

I can't believe they're doing this to paladin's though. We were no longer a god class like 42 nerf's ago, AND THEY ARE STILL PICKING AT US!?

Paladin's have been nerfd more times then any other class, it's seriously BS! What about ****ing hunter's huh!? And ROGUES!? OMFGWTF I hate Rogus... With all my heart, I hate them ¬¬ AND ****ING SHAMANS!

What's sad? Is after the next patch? A rogue will be able to single handedly defeat like 3 pallies. THAT'S UNFAIR AYE!? Unless they are smart, and all use this new Holy Burst thing. 1.2k damage for 1k mana. if they just all blast him with that, then pund him, that shit bag is g00000ne.

Yeah, I'm a bit moody right now. Can't ****ing believe it, ****ing Blizzard.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Strong Bad

Hmm.. I assume on these Neutral servers, that if you're not PvP and you're from opposite factions and you meet eachother... nothing too special happens, ehh?

I mean, They can't just ... attack you or anything? I guess not if it's not PvP. I heard you can't party together or stuff like that.. I assume you can still talk to eachother though..

Is there some kind of Trading System in the game?

I remember in RO, Pront was LOADED full of Merchs... Is it anything like that in WoW?

No matter what server you play on you can't play with people of the opposite faction. No talking, no PMing, no partying. Nothing. When you see someone on a PvE server you just ignore them.

There is a trading system in the game, and an auction house is located at every major city that is linked to every other city of your faction.




Jet, Paladins were uber godly a long time ago. I havn't played one in about 6 months, and it was only level 13, but I can see the nerfs. Shamans will get nerfed to, I gaurantee you that.

However, Rogues aren't that great. They can hit you from stealth, and a good Rogue can get 3 combo points and take about a quarter of your life before you know wtf is going on, but aside from that we go down EASY. Having leather armor the whole game does that to you. On top of which, we already have crappy HP.

I think my dad's 49 mage has more HP than my 45 rogue.

[Leroy]

Jet, Paladins were uber godly a long time ago. I havn't played one in about 6 months, and it was only level 13, but I can see the nerfs. Shamans will get nerfed to, I gaurantee you that.

However, Rogues aren't that great. They can hit you from stealth, and a good Rogue can get 3 combo points and take about a quarter of your life before you know wtf is going on, but aside from that we go down EASY. Having leather armor the whole game does that to you. On top of which, we already have crappy HP.

Rofl true. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Rogues are over-powered or anything (Ok, maybe just a little) but I have seen video's of Rogues with just 2 hotkeys. Eviscerate and Sinister Strike. And they STILL own everything >">

I really dislike how a Rogue is the king-class at ganking though. They'll just ambush you and if it's crit, that's like 1.5-2k hp gone :|

I got a rogue, It's level 22 xD And I love it. So fun, cause I'm questing at Duskwood atm. I just get gold off my paladin and buy it all the best blues at AH

Rogues, are annoying in duels though. Especially combat ones >"> They get you down to about 35-40%, then just use adrenaline rush... And then it's like watching porn download. Hp goes bye bye lol. However, on a good day, when my fingers are jumpy, and I can be bothered switching auras, mashing the right hot keys etc, I can own rogues.

The way I see it.

Rogues are scissors, Warriors are rock, Hunters, Paladins, Priests, Druids, Mages and Shamans are Paper and Warlock's are mushrooms. paper beats rock, Scissors beat paper, Scissors also happen to beat rock, until rock hits 60 at which point rock becomes an unstoppable killing machine. It then also beats paper, It would also beat scissors, but It can't find scissors, cause scissors are invisible. So scissors beat paper, and avoid rock. And that is called balance. =\

Originally Posted by Jet

Rofl.

WoW made me cry yesterday. I recently got my paladin to 60 ok? And then I test the public realm, and... They've murdered paladin's.

Seriously, all the workers at Blizzard play Shaman's, and enjoy pissing on the Alliance's would-be-best-class-if-it-weren't-for-the-fact-that-they-get-nerfd-every-single-patch paladin's >">

Now I have to play my gay priest. But it's all good, cause my friend plays his mage, and a mage+priest=ftw. I saw a Mage and Priest in pvp, took on like 5 horde characters. Was so funny, they slaughtered them with hardly any effort.

One thing that shit's me off about WoW. If you're not lvl 58, the game is boring. Until you're 58, no one takes you seriously (Like, you get alot of fags calling you noob in gen. chat) When you ARE 58, you can just run instances like UBRS, Scholo, Strat etc for all your best gear, and then gradually make it 60 that way.

I can't believe they're doing this to paladin's though. We were no longer a god class like 42 nerf's ago, AND THEY ARE STILL PICKING AT US!?

Paladin's have been nerfd more times then any other class, it's seriously BS! What about ****ing hunter's huh!? And ROGUES!? OMFGWTF I hate Rogus... With all my heart, I hate them ¬¬ AND ****ING SHAMANS!

What's sad? Is after the next patch? A rogue will be able to single handedly defeat like 3 pallies. THAT'S UNFAIR AYE!? Unless they are smart, and all use this new Holy Burst thing. 1.2k damage for 1k mana. if they just all blast him with that, then pund him, that shit bag is g00000ne.

Yeah, I'm a bit moody right now. Can't ****ing believe it, ****ing Blizzard.

Fuck Paladins.

And screw all you *****s playing on your carebear servers!!! >p

I eat Paladins for lunch and Mages for dinner, FOR THE HORDE. I even do a shaman >D

PS: The only classes a GOOD hunter should should loose to are Druids and Shamans, and MAYBE a good paladin, but that's a strech. PvP more good hunters n00b!

[Djinn]

Originally Posted by Jet

Rofl.

WoW made me cry yesterday. I recently got my paladin to 60 ok? And then I test the public realm, and... They've murdered paladin's.

Seriously, all the workers at Blizzard play Shaman's, and enjoy pissing on the Alliance's would-be-best-class-if-it-weren't-for-the-fact-that-they-get-nerfd-every-single-patch paladin's >">

Now I have to play my gay priest. But it's all good, cause my friend plays his mage, and a mage+priest=ftw. I saw a Mage and Priest in pvp, took on like 5 horde characters. Was so funny, they slaughtered them with hardly any effort.

One thing that shit's me off about WoW. If you're not lvl 58, the game is boring. Until you're 58, no one takes you seriously (Like, you get alot of fags calling you noob in gen. chat) When you ARE 58, you can just run instances like UBRS, Scholo, Strat etc for all your best gear, and then gradually make it 60 that way.

I can't believe they're doing this to paladin's though. We were no longer a god class like 42 nerf's ago, AND THEY ARE STILL PICKING AT US!?

Paladin's have been nerfd more times then any other class, it's seriously BS! What about ****ing hunter's huh!? And ROGUES!? OMFGWTF I hate Rogus... With all my heart, I hate them ¬¬ AND ****ING SHAMANS!

What's sad? Is after the next patch? A rogue will be able to single handedly defeat like 3 pallies. THAT'S UNFAIR AYE!? Unless they are smart, and all use this new Holy Burst thing. 1.2k damage for 1k mana. if they just all blast him with that, then pund him, that shit bag is g00000ne.

Yeah, I'm a bit moody right now. Can't ****ing believe it, ****ing Blizzard.

Maybe you need to learn that a paladin isn't meant to be a damage dealing class. This patch hasn't nerfed them, not at all. A lot of really good paladins from my guild are loving all the changes. Ok so their talent trees still need some work, but at least its a step in the right direction. Remember, Shaman = Offensive, Paladin = Defensive.

And about rogues, i play a hunter... so unless a rogue procs crippling poison on me after my pvp trinket is used and before i get to concussive shot range, chances are he's gunna be eating the floor in less than 10 seconds. Rogues definatly don't like 1.3k damage multi-shot crits haha.

Having leather armor the whole game does that to you. On top of which, we already have crappy HP.

Rogues that have their pvp set or that are in end game guilds running MC/BWL normally have around 5k hps, which is fairly similar to what my hunter has (4.7k unbuffed i believe), most classes hover around this mark at end game. You just need to learn to balance agility and stamina as a rogue/hunter.

And to reinforce Jin's statement. Here's a Paladin's role in end game instances such as Molten Core and Blackwing Lair. Don't argue with me on this either, I've done them both with my NE Druid, with my guild full of pallys.

Paladin's first, and most important role:
Buffing.

If you're not handing buffs out 95% of the time, you're not doing your job and there for you're a bad paladin. Healers should NEVER be without Salvation and Wisdom, at the least. Tanks should never be without Might, Sanc, and Kings, ever ever ever. Rogues and hunters should NEVER NEVER EVER be without Might, Kings and SALVATION. Rogues MUST have salvation ALWAYS.

Also, you should be doing Aura dancing constantly depending on the mob. For example, in MC, you should know WHEN to have FR resist Aura on and when to have Arcane, ect. If you don't, you're a bad Paladin. You're wearing plate and a shield, you HAVE to be up with the MTs making sure they have their Blessings and that they're within the range to get your Aura.

Paladin's second role:
Healing. If you're not cross healing main -healers-, well, then, WTF are you doing? I cannot stress just HOW many times my ass has been saved by a paladin healing me while I'm casting a large heal on an MT, rogue, or mage. Paying attention to the health of Priests and Druids is incredibly important. While yes, we are supposed to be able to heal ourselves, when the choice comes between healing ourself or healing the Main Tank who's got the aggro, well, there's no choice, you have to heal MT even if we die. Which is why Paladins become life savers.

In short, those are the roles of Paladins in End Game instaces. You're not dealing any dmg, you're sitting around making sure your raid group is as powerful as you can possibly make it. The end!

Paladins do NOT = DPS, ever. Period. This is why their end game weapons include such fine maces as Hammer of the Grand Crusader and Finkle's Lava Dredger. Look at the stats... they're not going to support the theory of dealing dmg.