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Old 01-10-2006, 09:42 AM Level: 28   HP: 103 / 678
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FFI vs. FFX!!

The question of all questoin amongst true FF diehards. Which FF is better? Final Fantasy I, the master amongst gameplay and replay. Or Final Fantasy X, Square's, rather simple, shiny pearl?

Do understand that you may think of any FFI version that jumps in to mind. I like the Origins version the best, it was nice and challenging, but still fly looking.

FFX was rather easy, but had some nice stuff in it. Versus a master classic such as FFI, I think it loses. Final Fantasy I has greater replay value and shows that it can be very very challenging. That is why my choice goes to...

Final Fantasy I!!!

Let us discuss this as we are with FFVI and VII...

To use as material, we will start with this statement:

The characters in FFI are more interesting then those in FFX.

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I vote against the opinion of the topic creator in this case. I would say Final Fantasy X is superior to Final Fantasy I (especially the NES version), especially for the soundtrack. I do not like Final Fantasy I as much as the other Final Fantasy games, except Final Fantasy IIj. The soundtrack of Final Fantasy I is rather bland and moody, and was remixed for PSOne and GBA. The soundtrack of Final Fantasy X is excellent, especially for the songs such as Suteki Da Ne, To the Ends of Abyss, Tidus's Theme, Yuna's Theme, and We Are Al Bhed. The Final Fantasy I soundtrack was originally NES style, then remixed to Final Fantasy IX style. The gameplay of the NES version of Final Fantasy I is far inferior to the gameplay of Final Fantasy X, for one thing having to mash the Confirm button twice per unit of quantity. That gameplay weakness was shaken off in the Final Fantasy Origins version. Final Fantasy I and X are both linear.

What Final Fantasy I and X have in common that the other Final Fantasy games do not have are NulBlaze and NulFrost.

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The characters in FFI are more interesting then those in FFX.
To me, the reverse is true. The characters in the NES trilogy are dead tedious to me, while the characters in other Final Fantasy games are interesting to me. The storyline of Final Fantasy I is not as interesting to me as the storyline of Final Fantasy X.

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Mage friend, how could you say such?In FFI the characters cannot speak....at all!I don't have much to say but...I really think that FFX is superior.Although I like FFI a lot (I'm a sucker for jobs,especially the RedMage) and I enjoyed beating it thoroughly, it cannot be compared to FFX in story,characters subquests,originality with the battle system or................. the fact that we need and love chocobos to be in our game .

Oh and when I first used NulBlaze to block Seymour's Fira spell, I thought about lowering the damage of Marilith's (was it?) Fira attacks too with my RedMage
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Final Fantasy I lacks Chocobos and has silent protagonists. Chocobos were introduced in Final Fantasy IIj. The gameplay of the NES version of Final Fantasy I is overrated. A sidequest was added for the GBA version of Final Fantasy I. I played through Final Fantasy I twice.
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Well, the NES version wasn't that impressing. I'm using the remakes as examples. So the characters don't speak...BIG DEAL! They didn't until FFX. And you have to say, now and then, they could be annoying (especially Rikku). It's hard to compare these two games overall. That's why I'm putting so much attention on the gameplay. The gameplay of FFX can't match with that of FFI. If the gameplay of FFI would suck, there wouldn't be much of a game left now

And, yes I lied by saying the characters of FFI are more interesting. I just said that to get your attention. There ARE more fun though. You cannot deny that!!
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I'm gonna go with FFX. Even though my opinion on this wavers a lot, right now I'd have to say that FFX is my favorite in the series. The reason for that is it introduced so many things in the story that were much different than anything seen in the FF series before. Sin, the struggle between the people of faith (Yevon) and those that used the forbidden machina (Al Bhed), the Fayth, the role of summoners, there were just so many fresh ideas in the game that it was hard for me to put down.

The battle system I thought was very good. Like in most of the recent Final Fantasies, you could theoretically make it so that all your characters would have all the same abilities and what not, but the sphere grid was set up so that throughout most of the game your characters were pretty unique. Yuna and Lulu were mages, Rikku was your agile theif, Kimarhi and Auron were your big hitters and Tidus and Wakka were the fast, accurate attackers.

The thing I liked most about the game though was probably the fact that the game was less focused on a group led by your main character trying to save the world kind of thing. Yeah, Sin was threatening all of Spira and everything, but it wasn't like there was a Meteor was coming down on the planet or Ultimecia was trying to compress time or something like that. Sin would have eventually been destroyed by someone else had they not done it. Also, for once, the main character isn't even really the center or the story, or the leader of the group until the end of the game. Well, I guess he's kind of the center of the story for the game, but in the big picture, Yuna is really the one who the focus is on. She's the one who needs to defeat Sin, Tidus is just a guardian. I really liked this approach to the game, how it wasn't all about "Ok, how is the main character going to defeat the evil power thats threatening the world." It focused more on the story and the events leading up to how the conflict was going to be resolved, told through the eyes of the main character. Thats why I think FFX has the best story in the series, well, that and FFT are pretty close for me, FFT has such a deep and twisting story.

I think the fact that I hadn't played FF1 until recently kinda skewed my decision on this, but it was just too outdated for me. Game was too short, gameplay wasn't exciting enough, story was deep enough, characters weren't deep enough, just really couldn't keep hold of my attention.
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I think this is an excellent question and my decision holds no ill will to the thought of those who have never played the older games. There will be some of you for sure, but it's no matter.

I started out on FFI when I was like 12 or something and it was totally cool. I played FF X for 8 hours and have never played it since. Now that isn't the end of my decision here though.

In all truth there is no way that FFI could compete with X, aside from a Job System versus a create your own character system. FF X had upgrades in every category, most of all graphically obviously.

Yet my decision is that I would still give it to FFI. This will shock many of you but the reason why I liked it, like I did FF IV, and FF VIII, was that to me it created a sense of exploration. When the games get too overbogged or obvious with a bunch of crap and pizazz, they sometimes lose that feel of exploring. I think FF I had alot going for it back in the day, and was just so addictive. The replay value was near endless, you HAD to play it at least twice to play all the different characters and see there class changes. Plus one really important thing here...it was DIFFICULT. You could actually die, and that is something rare in games today...challenge.

FF X might have a ton of things going for it, but there are a few things I hate right off the bat. I don't like the story as much, I hated blitzball with a passion, and I've never appreciated the everyone can learn magic or in this case even worse...everyone can learn everyone else's abilities. Basically after stat maxing, everyone is the same character with a different set of graphics and a different name. That's lame.

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I've never appreciated the everyone can learn magic or in this case even worse...everyone can learn everyone else's abilities. Basically after stat maxing, everyone is the same character with a different set of graphics and a different name. That's lame.
That is nothing lame to me. Such gameplay feature did not happen just in Final Fantasy X. It first happened in Final Fantasy IIj. In Final Fantasy IIj, everyone can learn everyone else's abilities, and use any weapon or spell. Such feature is fine with me. Criticizing a game for having that feature is lame, crazy, and worthless. Final Fantasy X has some original ideas that I cannot retire from.

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That is nothing lame to me. Such gameplay feature did not happen just in Final Fantasy X. It first happened in Final Fantasy IIj. In Final Fantasy IIj, everyone can learn everyone else's abilities, and use any weapon or spell. Such feature is fine with me. Criticizing a game for having that feature is lame, crazy, and worthless. Final Fantasy X has some original ideas that I cannot retire from.
That's fine if it's ok with YOU, but I don't like it. I think it takes away from the individuality of each character in having there own abiliities and strengths/weaknesses that make them who they are.

I think people who like that feature are level grinders that only care about maxing out statistics.

What's the point of using Magic or Aeons anymore when everyone can hit for 9999 with there weapons? It basically nullifies the need for Magic, Aeons, and other such characteristics that make the characters who they are.
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Thats not entirely true, everybody has their individual limit breaks and only Yuna can Summon, and by the time you get the chance to max your stats you mostly rely on summoning and overdrives. As for comparing FFX to FF1 I would say X, the reason for this is mostly because of the much greater size of the game, I am playing FF1 for the first time and I have just completed the Sea Shrine and I am only at 14 hours, sure it has a much greater replay value with the White mage and solo walk through but you can pretty much do that and more on X. Other than that I would say its a really thin line, FFX mostly relies on good graphics and a sphere grid which takes hours to complete (158 and still not complete). The story on FFX was nothing to special, just a whiny kid who can't carry a sword crying "That's enough! Lets finish this, OK!?" and a soft touched girl losing her virginity. There is no Fighter (in sense of personality) and Sin is really Garland without the crystals. Had this been compared to 4 5 6 or 9 they would of 1 cause of my reasons above but for now I am going with 10.
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FF 1 wins for many reasons, one of them being you dont have to listen to an annoying voice for hours
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My vote (as you can guess) goes to FFI. Here are the reasons;

Good about FFI; This is a classic. This game really deserves everything it has earned. First of all, characters. Even though they aren't named before you start the game, it's only a good thing. You don't have to stick with some stupid names like Rikku etc.

Second, the class change you get in FFI improves the game more. It gets you almost to another dimension when your characters are more powerful. It helps your mages too when you can get high-level magics. In FFX you just raise your characters stats in some stupid grid. What's the point?

Then the graphics. It is a little.. krhmm.. messy. But it's still good. Then in the origins version, it has improved quite a bit and that makes the gameplay more enjoayable. FFX of course has better graphics with wider perspective, but the characters in it are only cry-babies=P. Those are my thoughts of FFI being better than FFX.

NOTE: You should all get the idea that I'm a die-hard Old-skooler, and this is only my opinion.
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My favorite has to be FFX,I admit listening to Tidus hours on end does get annoying but the story does not always revolve around him like most other if not all Final Fantasies.Also the sphere grid Rocked for many reasons,it does not rely on constantly levelling up,being able to learn other people's skills,etc.
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