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Old 11-07-2009, 10:24 AM Level: 3  HP: 1 / 57
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cannabis sativa

thei thread is open to people who wish to talk abot legalizing marijuana.

my opinion is that they should becuase it isnt man made
and legalizing could drop the crime rating alot in america

what do you guys think about it
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In my opinion, it doesn't matter whether it's legalized or not, people will still use it regardless. I find it funny that it's illegal here, but it's a huge cash crop in California. I learned that in Econ. I don't really care if it's legalized because I don't really smoke.


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2 Corn
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3 Soybeans
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17 Peanuts
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18 Barley
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Legalize it so I can stop drinking and ****ing up my liver, brain cells and whatever else. Oh, and so I can stop having hangovers. Tax it like liquor so the big guys can make money off it.

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I'm torn on the subject. On one hand, it IS a natural crop that does grow. It's far more natural than 80 year old men taking pills to get their dicks up. Plus if it is legalized, then you wouldn't have to worry so much about it being laced with anything, since the government would regulate it. That would also presumably mean regulated THC levels.

Though, the same could be said about cigarettes. If we get big marijuana, like we have big tobacco, who knows what kind of harmful shit will be added to blunts, just so they can become addictive enough, or burn long enough.

On the other hand, it can really **** with your head. I've seen some kids freak out hardcore from blazing, and paranoia is a major side effect. This can be due to the fact that they're afraid of getting caught blazing, but still. Then again, with booze, people can get pretty reckless too.

I don't smoke, so I don't really care. I've done my fair share of stuff in the past, but I've grown up.
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People drink responsibly and people smoke responsibly. People abuse alcohol and people abuse marijuana. The difference is, you can get sick and die from abusing alcohol.

And the difference between legal and illegal is who makes money off of it. I say legalize it, tax it, and let's pay for health care.

I am not a smoker. But people getting righteous over pot use as they get wasted on weekends are amusing at their best.
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I don't smoke marijuana (or anything else for that matter), but I have a few friends that do. I honestly don't see the appeal, because after they smoke up they either act really goofy or really mellow. I don't want to put anything in my body that makes me lose any sort of control over my actions.

As for legalizing it, I really don't have any strong feelings either way on the subject. I do see the pros of legalizing it, like for health related stuff (like helping cancer patients deal with the side-effects of going through chemo), but I see cons as well. I do think that marijauna is a gateway drug, so once you become tolerant to it's effects, then you may want/"need" something stronger to get the results that you once got from just lighting up a joint. But I also think that it really depends on the person if that indeed happens or not.

So I think that if people can be responsible about it, then I say that I have no problems with the legalization of marijuana.
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Legalize it. I don't smoke, never even tried it. I know tons who do though. It's something we can throw a tax on and put to better use. Mass has new tax on all alcohol which has made people irate. Do it with weed too. Actually if you have less than an ounce it's only punishable by a fine here. Just like the bunny ranches where the government gets their cut they seem happy about it. Do the same with weed. With how America seems to want to scrounge up whatever money they can dig deep for that cash...you can't stop people from smoking. Just like you couldn't stop them from drinking during Prohibition. So why not make money off of it?

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I don't want to put anything in my body that makes me lose any sort of control over my actions.
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You dont lose control of any of your actions when high on weed, you can do everything you can sober while stoned. FACT

There is no reason to keep weed illegal, it will solve alot more problems than it would create. Honestly, i cant see it causing any problems what-so-ever.

I dont think it should be just legalised, I think it should be mandatory for all.

The world would be a better place with happy stoned people
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For being the TFF pot head, all I have to say is I don't care.

I mean I see it like this.

A) It's legalized. Prices go up, dealers lose their best job ever. No worries about it, less tension on it from police.

B) It stays illegal. Prices stay (which suck here). Dealers keep their best job. Police will still make it a big deal.

That is all I see with it being legalized.
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You dont lose control of any of your actions when high on weed, you can do everything you can sober while stoned. FACT
You don't see people getting pulled over and killing others because of stoned driving, unlike alcohol, yet alcohol is legal.

I have tons of friends that drive faded with no trouble at all.
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It's def possible to do things while blazed, and yet sometimes it's not. I know kids who can drive, do homework, be totally dominant in games, all while high. I also know kids who become dumb as shit. Some people smoke themselves so stupid that even the simplest things become a chore. One kid started to get dry mouth, so he got some water, and I shit you not, could not find his mouth. He spilled 2 glasses all over himself, and was like "why the hell am I still so thirsty, I had 2 glasses of water."
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One kid started to get dry mouth, so he got some water, and I shit you not, could not find his mouth. He spilled 2 glasses all over himself, and was like "why the hell am I still so thirsty, I had 2 glasses of water."
rofl!!

Classic, i love that, but the thing is, if he wanted, he could snap out of his daze/trance whatever if he wanted at the click of a finger, he should have in his instance
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It's all a mental thing. Now I know a long time ago when I used to smoke with my friends, I would just sit there and watch him play Halo 3 all night. Hell I don't even remember most of those times, but back then, playing games was hard for me. I was still getting used to being that high. Now? I can do everything high, it's become a second nature that I enjoy having while doing things. But I have been smoking less lately. Need a tolerance break.
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yeah i remember when i first started it hard to keep control
but after three years of blazing it up with homies i got used to it. now i can do preety much every thing wwile still faded. it just makes the day alot better and funner especially when you have white widow
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yeah i remember when i first started it hard to keep control
but after three years of blazing it up with homies i got used to it. now i can do preety much every thing wwile still faded. it just makes the day alot better and funner especially when you have white widow
From the looks of it, I'd say you're faded now, am I right?
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nah i just dont pay much attention to what im typing cause i
type fast and dont reread what i typed thats why its all jacked up
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LOL Cannabis is what caused the death of bruce lee
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its impossible to overdose on weed
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I think that it should be legalized here in the states, as others have said before me it is a good way fro the government to make a quick buck plus there are teh benifits in the medical feild also.

Honeslty if I had a choice to be in an auto accident with a drunk or someone that is stoned out of their mind I would say I would rather hit the stoner; you know he is goign to be the observant one that is so parinoid he is going 20 MPH under the speed limit.

I will admit I have partaken on many rips of the good old smoking accessories in my time and I have since grown out of it due to RDTs and other reasons which I will keep to myself. I think that a schmoke is fine if one chooses to do so, to one eats their own right?

Also Nix brings up a good point, if someone is in the need to kill the ride all they have to do is think about what the **** they are doing. Weed is a damn good concentration drug if you use it to your advantage. Hell I say prescribe it to kids with ADD.
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I think it should be available to ill people, but only to them. It's dangerous.

Back home I live on a big seller street. Almost everyone grows it in their attics or gardens to get some extra money. They sell it to teenagers, who prefer it to school. They sell it to parents, who prefer it to taking their kids to the park. They sell it to junkies who don't have the money for smack.

Marijuana is addictive in a way that alcohol isn't. People can say it's not addictive and doesn't **** with people's minds until they're blue in the face, but I have seen it. I've seen what it does to families and to poor teenagers. The middle class can hack it fine, because they've got comforts to return to once the high fades.

Weed more or less killed my best friend, years ago. I can't count on two hands the amount of people I've seen go hash - E/speed/MDMA - coke - smack. She was one of them. It doesn't happen to the comfortable kids who do it either. I've seen someone, a good friend, try to smoke a herbal ****ing teabag because she couldn't get grass and couldn't sleep without it. I've seen my dad stay up for three days and nights for the same reason, drowning himself in cheap whisky, looking for respite.

As you can probably guess, I've smoked a fair bit in my time. I'm really not keen on it anymore though. Rather a glass of wine and a cigarette.

Making it legal would clean up crime and cut down on so many bad things: sex traffic, violence, racketeering. I don't want to stick up for the gangsters, but I could never say that I'd be happy if hash was made legal.
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