Emos

[VengefulRonin]

Oooh, another fun thread. What do you think of emos? I don't like them. But it's not their silly tight pants or vision-impairing hairstyles or uninspired music that bothers me. Nay, what bothers me is their values, I suppose you could say. All of a sudden it's cool to be depressed, write bad poetry and be a drama queen. In general, they seem to be attention-whore crybabies who blow everything out of proportion.

Highschool crush doesn't like you because your tight pants have crushed your manhood? Cut and whine about it to your equally emo friends! Mommy didn't give you an advance on your allowance so you could buy the new My Chemical Romance CD? Write fake suicide notes and tell everyone your life is terrible.

It's an entire subculture of being self-centered. Nobody's life or family is worse than yours, even if you have a plush, suburban life with parents who provide for you. It's common to see black kids at your school or workplace who work their ass off to be better off than their single parent on welfare or to help out the financial situation at home. Do you never see them writing bad poetry about it and cutting? No.

A very bad side effect emo culture has is the general mindset people gain about cutters and depressed people. Alot of people cut because they have serious problems at home, or are depressed because of issues at home or school or simply cannot help it because of chemical imbalances in the brain. Thanks to emos cutting and going all mopey and "depressed" over the most trivial reasons, truly depressed people and cutters are thrown into the category of emo and aren't taken seriously. As a side note, I'll admit it's hard to not automatically categorize someone like that as emo, but there's usually a good way of telling who's emo and who isn't: emos go around showing off their cuts and talking about how crappy things are, the truly depressed or cutters don't.

Another thing that annoys me about emo is that it's suddenly trendy to be bi. I myself am bisexual, and I think emos fail to realize what being bisexual entails and what that word means. It doesn't mean I R KISSING ANDROGYNOUS BOY I CAN PRETEND IS GRL, it means you would gladly do MUCH more with someone of the same sex.

So anyway, I'm done, I'll probably think of more later. Added a nifty poll for you guys.

[Fishie]

I have to agree with you, people who actually are depressed and do cut and have issues are considered "emo" sadly. Honestly, I think the trend will fade away and something else will be in. That's how society and high school works pretty much. Why a guy would want to wear tight pants I don't get? My package needs breathing dammit!!!!

Seriously though, I know some emos that are cool. There's several of them that are not like your typical emos but the rest of them at my school are straight up pussies. Why would someone enjoy being depressed? Seriously, it sucks being depressed all the time. But the thing that pissed me off is how some people cry and bitch over spilled milk or some shit and go cut themselves over something stupid. On top of that, some cut in places and show them off like some ****ing artwork or something. I just don't get the whole emo crap nor will I ever will.

[Priscilla]

There is not a lot of emos at my school. But there is enough for them to form their own group. That said I go to an all girls school and there are more bisexuals then straight girls. Now, I don't believe these girls are all acutally bisexual but they like the attention which is really wrong because it makes the people who are acutally bisexual look the same. Which isn't fair. Either way most of my grade have gone out with each other at some stage.

My first day of school I saw people making out behind the lockers. But apparently it was a rare thing to see then. It's common now..

I do like a lot of emo music though. But I am in no way emo. I have a lot of emo friends and as long as they don't act depressed and tell me how bad their life is. I'm fine with it. If they acutally do have real problems however i'm more then happy to listen.

[VengefulRonin]

Originally Posted by Fishie

I have to agree with you, people who actually are depressed and do cut and have issues are considered "emo" sadly. Honestly, I think the trend will fade away and something else will be in. That's how society and high school works pretty much. Why a guy would want to wear tight pants I don't get? My package needs breathing dammit!!!!

Exactly. And there's a biological reason why the scrotum exists and keeps the testicles away from the body.

Seriously though, I know some emos that are cool. There's several of them that are not like your typical emos but the rest of them at my school are straight up pussies. Why would someone enjoy being depressed? Seriously, it sucks being depressed all the time.

They're probably not true emos then, and just like the fashion xD As for why they enjoy being depressed, as I said, they are attention whores and drama queens. They WANT the attention, they are SELFISH and like to wallow in self-pity because it focuses on themselves and prevents them from having to look at others' problems. It's simply a way to shield themselves from the real world.

Originally Posted by Priscilla

There is not a lot of emos at my school. But there is enough for them to form their own group. That said I go to an all girls school and there are more bisexuals then straight girls. Now, I don't believe these girls are all acutally bisexual but they like the attention which is really wrong because it makes the people who are acutally bisexual look the same. Which isn't fair. Either way most of my grade have gone out with each other at some stage.

Totally shoulda mentioned that. Emo gives bisexuality a bad name too, just like it does real cutters or people with clinical depression.

[Calcifer]

Originally Posted by VengefulRonin

Oooh, another fun thread. What do you think of emos? I don't like them. But it's not their silly tight pants or vision-impairing hairstyles or uninspired music that bothers me. Nay, what bothers me is their values, I suppose you could say. All of a sudden it's cool to be depressed, write bad poetry and be a drama queen. In general, they seem to be attention-whore crybabies who blow everything out of proportion.

Highschool crush doesn't like you because your tight pants have crushed your manhood? Cut and whine about it to your equally emo friends! Mommy didn't give you an advance on your allowance so you could buy the new My Chemical Romance CD? Write fake suicide notes and tell everyone your life is terrible.

It's an entire subculture of being self-centered. Nobody's life or family is worse than yours, even if you have a plush, suburban life with parents who provide for you. It's common to see black kids at your school or workplace who work their ass off to be better off than their single parent on welfare or to help out the financial situation at home. Do you never see them writing bad poetry about it and cutting? No.

A very bad side effect emo culture has is the general mindset people gain about cutters and depressed people. Alot of people cut because they have serious problems at home, or are depressed because of issues at home or school or simply cannot help it because of chemical imbalances in the brain. Thanks to emos cutting and going all mopey and "depressed" over the most trivial reasons, truly depressed people and cutters are thrown into the category of emo and aren't taken seriously. As a side note, I'll admit it's hard to not automatically categorize someone like that as emo, but there's usually a good way of telling who's emo and who isn't: emos go around showing off their cuts and talking about how crappy things are, the truly depressed or cutters don't.

Another thing that annoys me about emo is that it's suddenly trendy to be bi. I myself am bisexual, and I think emos fail to realize what being bisexual entails and what that word means. It doesn't mean I R KISSING ANDROGYNOUS BOY I CAN PRETEND IS GRL, it means you would gladly do MUCH more with someone of the same sex.

So anyway, I'm done, I'll probably think of more later. Added a nifty poll for you guys.

I couldn't agree with you less. Thanks for the entertaining and surprisingly accurately post. I personally can't stand them. Their are real people who need help.. these other sad people who make and turn everything into problems just for attention need to get over themselves and grow up.

[OmniTense]

"Emos are people too" That's my catchphrase for my unsuccessful campaign.

I suppose as a Goth, I have cause to point at Emos more than anyone and bellow defiantly: "WHINY LITTLE COPYCAT BITCHES, I'LL SKULL**** YOU ON GENERAL PRINCIPLE!!!"

But I don't. Many of my friends are self-confessed emos. The truth is, they can be whiny, they can be too full of self-loathing and if they stayed that way all their years on earth someone should prolly just shoot them. But it is a phase, they eventually make a recovery if they live long enough.

The whole "Bi" Emo thing doesn't really bother me all that much I guess. Part of the subculture. To be honest, Goths do that to a point too, I've noticed(having been hit on by too many guys whilst clubbing).

The only thing...and I really mean only(cause on all other levels I couldn't care less) that makes me get nauseated at Emos, are how much people get them confused with goths. Cause Goths can tell the difference even if you can't. It's a mindset people. Not that many goths show up in ugly plaid weepy-eyed crying into their own beers, sticking themselves with safety pins and then snogging with eachother in the backroom...no-no-no...That's just a different subculture.

They listen to Coheed and Cambria we listen to Skinny Puppy. There's a marked difference.


That aside... Emos just are a fact of life. Some of them can turn out to be handy friends. Some wind up bitter weepy assholes.

[VengefulRonin]

Originally Posted by Sinister

I suppose as a Goth, I have cause to point at Emos more than anyone and bellow defiantly: "WHINY LITTLE COPYCAT BITCHES, I'LL SKULL**** YOU ON GENERAL PRINCIPLE!!!"

Damn you. I was drinking tea and that actually made me lawl. Not a good time to be lawling.

Many of my friends are self-confessed emos. The truth is, they can be whiny, they can be too full of self-loathing and if they stayed that way all their years on earth someone should prolly just shoot them. But it is a phase, they eventually make a recovery if they live long enough.

I know a guy here in town (keep in mind, I live in Tennessee), he's 24, probably the perfect example of an emo. He doesn't dress it, doesn't listen to emo music, he used to play alot of American football and he's a gamer too...but my god he's pathetic, he's never grown out of the phase. He constantly complains and feels sorry for himself because his relationships with girls never work out. He freaking fell in love with a 17 year old chick in Minnesota a few months ago, for crying out loud. He acts like failed relationships are the entirety of his life and as such, it's been a terrible life made of fail for him. I finally stopped talking to him because I got tired of hearing his whining.

That is what pisses me off about emos. As the saying goes, they make mountains out of molehills. There are people out there worse off than you who don't complain half as much, so get a grip on life. Relationships aren't everything, mommy and daddy not letting you go somewhere isn't everything.

The only thing...and I really mean only(cause on all other levels I couldn't care less) that makes me get nauseated at Emos, are how much people get them confused with goths. Cause Goths can tell the difference even if you can't. It's a mindset people. Not that many goths show up in ugly plaid weepy-eyed crying into their own beers, sticking themselves with safety pins and then snogging with eachother in the backroom...no-no-no...That's just a different subculture.

I have noticed there is alot of ignorance on that front. Some people think emos are a subdivision of goths, others think they're simply the depressed version of goths. Honestly, I always thought goths were WAY more level-headed people than emos (except those poser mall goths). There's a "friend" I have, he's an uber fundamental Christian and a preacher boy (I keep him around for teh lulz basically), on several occasions he's asked me what "goth" is...and like you said, it's a mindset, so I've never really been able to give him a good definition. Sadly, my inability to define it has led him to think that simply wearing a black t-shirt and black khakis makes him goth...

They listen to Coheed and Cambria we listen to Skinny Puppy. There's a marked difference.

j00 MEEN gOthS dnt liStin 2 cRaDle ov FiLtH and sLiPkNoT?! Haha, oddly enough I just watched that Skinny Puppy vid in your siggy, pretty freaky video. I actually might keep that video so I can use it for lulz on that preacher boy I know, thank god for 4chan making me immune to everything.

[OmniTense]

I know a guy here in town (keep in mind, I live in Tennessee), he's 24, probably the perfect example of an emo. He doesn't dress it, doesn't listen to emo music, he used to play alot of American football and he's a gamer too...but my god he's pathetic, he's never grown out of the phase. He constantly complains and feels sorry for himself because his relationships with girls never work out. He freaking fell in love with a 17 year old chick in Minnesota a few months ago, for crying out loud. He acts like failed relationships are the entirety of his life and as such, it's been a terrible life made of fail for him. I finally stopped talking to him because I got tired of hearing his whining.

That is what pisses me off about emos. As the saying goes, they make mountains out of molehills. There are people out there worse off than you who don't complain half as much, so get a grip on life. Relationships aren't everything, mommy and daddy not letting you go somewhere isn't everything.

That's kind of sad and frightening about that guy. But that's more like the evolutionary stage of an emo, or better yet, someone who is too concerned with problems. There are results from philosophies. That's one of the many outcomes of a self-loathing mindset. A more unfortunate example. But to be emo, one would have to have the hair...listen to the music..I.E. all that makes an emo an emo.

The mountain out of molehill is just a way of dealing with things. Some people express frustration by focusing it in, some by focusing it out and others just decide not to deal with it and just bear it.

I have noticed there is alot of ignorance on that front. Some people think emos are a subdivision of goths, others think they're simply the depressed version of goths. Honestly, I always thought goths were WAY more level-headed people than emos (except those poser mall goths). There's a "friend" I have, he's an uber fundamental Christian and a preacher boy (I keep him around for teh lulz basically), on several occasions he's asked me what "goth" is...and like you said, it's a mindset, so I've never really been able to give him a good definition. Sadly, my inability to define it has led him to think that simply wearing a black t-shirt and black khakis makes him goth...

I hate it. Seriously. Goths are some of the most emotionally stable(just not generally mentally stable) people in the cosmos. You are talking about people who wish the Night of the Living Dead would happen and work out escape scenarios versus people who let their emotions master them. Goths tend to let their emotions wash over them, it may leave them a little bleached-out feeling.

As for the poser syndrome. Pathetic in a very endearing way. My motto, bring a poser to a club. That usually sorts them.

j00 MEEN gOthS dnt liStin 2 cRaDle ov FiLtH and sLiPkNoT?!

Omg, I laughed and woke my roomie. You strike back.

Haha, oddly enough I just watched that Skinny Puppy vid in your siggy, pretty freaky video. I actually might keep that video so I can use it for lulz on that preacher boy I know, thank god for 4chan making me immune to everything.

Yea, good video that. They played it at a club and I found the vid. It could put a poser in his/her place, I imagine.







But in all seriousness, labels aren't people and vice versa. All the goths and all the emos aren't set aside from each other by iron rules. And sometimes the lines are blurry. Some people might be able to get away with both classifications and in the end probably none of it really matters... BUT...There are fundamental differences in what is generally held to be the defining differences and as long as the world views the word Emo as synonymous with weepy big-haired self-mutilating plaid-wearers(whether true or not) I must protest that an Emo is NOT a Goth.

[Anachlirium]

Okay.. Personally, I hate the word Emo. An 80's music genre gone horribly wrong and blown out of proportion, I think.

And while we're on that.. Mistaken music taste. Fall Out Boy is not emo. It is generic Pop-punk. There is nothing wrong with that at all. It is simply not emo. Same situation with My Chemical Romance, The Hot Lies and Good Charlotte. Not emo.

The fashion taste... I don't have any quarrels with that whatsoever. The tight jeans, the hair, the makeup, the piercings... It's just a fashion sence. Nothing wrong with it whatsoever. I quite like the look of it on some people, actually. Can look great when done right. Plus, eyeliner and skinny jeans look good on pretty much everybody >.>

Okay.. The self-mutilation. This I have huge issues with. I find that it's simply a massive mockery of those that do cut or have cut themselves. The fake depression, along with that. The 'emos' that sit and cut in public, claiming it's because their life sucks.. Look, some people do that legitimately. But most of the 'emo's don't. And it annoys me that they're trying to imitate and making a mockery of something that they haven't felt.

Also, the bisexuality.. It's destroyed the rights of people that actually are bisexual without trying to seek attention. I am bisexual myself, and it pisses me off that any time I even imply a slight attraction to the same sex I'm passed off as an 'emo attention seeker', because of these people creating that image. I've been bisexual all my life and yet I wasn't branded an attention seeker until the whole 'emo' revolution in the past couple of years. Coincidence? I think not.

[Silver]

I made a 'my chemical romance' of delight in my pants when I read through all this.

Yeah, we have the trendy sorts here, who're still fairly cool and don't really act all hardcore emo, they just dress like it. And then those other kinds...
But quite frankly, the ones who slit themselves up and stuff I don't mind so much. Because they have the balls to do it. The ones I REALLY dislike, are the posers who act like they either have or will slit their wrists but never would, the ones who brag about their emo ways but have no hope of delivering... Phonies...
Oh and those other twats with awesome family, good friends and some sweet dinero to go around, who still insist on being depressed all the time. Their lives ain't so bad...

To conclude, let's just post all those ones to some third world country in exchange for people who'd appreciate the kind of lifestyle we are privileged to have here. It'll mean... LESS DEPRESSION FOR ALL!

[Jin]

I utterly despise these topics. Leave these damn kids alone. Jesus tap dancing Christ, the only thing more trendy than being emo is making fun of emo kids. Relax about it. Doesn't anyone find the constant whining "I hate emos" to be utterly hypocritical? You're whining that people whine. Sub cultures will do what sub cultures do; you can dislike it, fine, but for God's sake, people go out of their way to pick on and or actually physically abuse emo kids. This is supposed to make them less depressed?

On a aesthetic note, emo kids are pretty.

[darkViVi]

This is supposed to make them less depressed?

Who the **** cares? Let them go home and cut themselves, maybe if we're lucky they'll get an infection and die. In pain, I'd like that.

This is not a culture, even though some may call it one. They are all self obsessed brats that needs to learn how to deal with life. So grow the hell up, kidz.