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Old 09-25-2006, 05:14 PM Level: 10  HP: 8 / 242
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Racism in this world

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A scene took place on a BA flight between Johannesburg andLondon.
A white woman, about 50 years old, was seated next to a black
man.
Obviously disturbed by this, she called the air Hostess.
Madam, What is the matter," the hostess asked.
"You obviously do not see it then?" she responded.
"You placed me next to a black man. I do not agree to sit next
tosomeone from
such a repugnant group. Give me an alternative seat."
"Be calm please," the hostess replied. "Almost all the places
on
this flight are taken. I will go to see if another place is
available."
The Hostess went away and then came back a few
minutes later. "Madam, just as I thought, there are no other
available seats in
the economy class. I spoke to the captain and he informed me that there
is
one seat in the business class. All the same, we also have one
seat
in the First class.
Before the woman could say anything, the hostess continued: "It
is unusual for our company to permit someone from the economy
class to sit in the first class. However, given the circumstances, the
captain feels that it would be scandalous to
make someone sit next to someone so disgusting"

She then turned to the black guy, and said, "Therefore, Sir, if
youwould like to, please collect your hand luggage, a seat awaitsyou
in first class." At that moment, the other passengers who were
shocked by what they had just witnessed stood up and applauded.
This is a true story ...

But one thing. That old hag got what she deseved. She got OWNED!
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Old 09-25-2006, 07:01 PM Level: 59  HP: 1466 / 1466
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Uh. The story itself is false, correct? Only, it's pretty hard to believe such pap.

Yeah, there's racism in the world, but at the same time, stories like this are totally unbelievable...

In any case, I'm don't agree with racism. I have a quie a few different blood groups and cultures myself, and so being a racist would make me more of a hypocrite than I already am.

On a serious note, I still don't agree with it, although I severely doubt any change in peoples' attitude.

Only inccidents in which people are helping each other seem to be the only way for people to look past the colour of ones' skin or where they come from...
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This is a true story ...
No it isnt. It is a nice little story to make us feel better about the world, but no.

Racism is bad. But racism is not as bad as it used to be. The older generation is being replaced by people who saw civil rights movements themselves. I see black people in my neighborhood and no one is getting shot.

There is still the honkies that lock their doors when the brothers walk by, but that is because of TV. Minorities are only seen as purse thieves, rappers, or the Magical Negro.
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Old 09-25-2006, 11:09 PM Level: 43  HP: 603 / 1062
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That is exactly the kind of crap which the media loves to spurt off to force white guilt, ie bullshit.

People who moan about racism are worse than people who are racist these days, if they didn't want it to exist then they would just leave it out all together. It's just so simple, not that I agree with it but I am surpised at how much they use it to justify their beliefs, irony at its finest.

Left Wing idiots want to keep it so than can keep something to moan about.
Right Wing douches want it to blame all their failures on.
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I fail to see how that's forcing white guilt. Although it wasn't mentioned, I would guess that the flight attendant and the piolate were white (as the woman probably wouldn't have dealt with anyone else) and yet they were the "heroes" of the story, so to speak. Sounds more like it's trying to put racists in their place (which sounds deliciously ironic). Besides, if the woman and the man's races had been reversed it would have had the same effect, for myself anyways.
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I have a great idea! Let's take this inspirational story and post it on myspace! We'll all put it in our bulletins and add "PUT THUIS IN YUR BULLETINZ IF YOU H8 RACISM" and stuff like that! It'll be ever so delightful!

If you don't go do that right now, you're a racist. And really, I am right. By failing to support a lighthearted story about overcoming racism on planes, you become a racist.

I've always hated that. Racism is always a Catch-22. It's annoying.

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sorry, but i don't see anything but pure ignorance in this story. if you refuse to get invovled everything around you, you might as well cut out your eyes for being so blatantly blind.

racism is always going to be there, and if you insist on being that moronic, at least make sure to do it without looking like a damn fool.

yeah, that sounded pretty clever. -_-;
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While the topic is on Racism, I will share my current thoughts. Racism really pees me off, I was watching an old video the other day where this guy was being really arragont and nasty to a black woman in the 60s(it was footage from a real argument between a white man and a black woman) and I got filled with rage, who cares if someone is black?! It makes NO difference, black people are normal people and if you are in anyway racist, you are a very sad pathetic person who feels the need to take out anger out on different coloured people. Racism is a BIG no-no, its pointless and pathetic.
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Well, unfortunately too many people think like that, midgarmako. I do agree with you, as well... but there will always be people that think "no, they're not the same"... perhaps it would be better if the whole world was blind, deaf and perhaps with the addition of being dead, too.
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Having a good look on both sides of the equation I really have to get this out there, sorry if its not directly related to the article at hand

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I fail to see how that's forcing white guilt.
You said this: Sounds more like it's trying to put racists in their place (which sounds deliciously ironic).

Surely you can figure it out...

So if somebody can put the Facists in their place who will put the commies and anti'fa's in there place? Black people have their problems and they don't need us to give them a moral boost, by supporting Anti'Facists all they are doing is proving them right. Before you read any further, I do not consider myself a Racist, I just hate how people make it their duty to destroy peoples lives and ruin everything they believe in, their way of life.

Racism does not exist because people think they are superior as people like to assume, racism exists to this day because people do stupid things which is oftened considered to be because of their race. I don't like the way the way Maori's always try and intimidate me, they like to act as if they are so much better than us, yet they still act like total bafoons trying to claim we ripped them off and they want their land back... then where is our guns, cigs and blankets? A lot of people see they are making things worse, hanging on to the past as if it is some kind of curse rather than a memory. The fact is I was not around when this shit happened yet I am forced to put up with it.

The biggest thing that pisses me off about Anti-fa's is there desire to lie, manipulate and scrutinize anything to do with Ethno-centric behaviours, if you think the world would be a much better place if race didn't exist then perhaps you should think about this:

We are in a forum dedicated a game made by the Japanese people, and many people consider them to be the most intelligent people in the world. Hands up who here knew that the Japs are quite racist? Why do you think they Allied with Hitler? The Japanese where very ethno-centric and refused to mix with people of Non-Japanese ancestory, and now look where they are at.

Before Hitler came to power Germany had not been a pleasurable place to live since the Classical Era when they gave up their traditional Germanic values and way of life. Hitler brought Germany out of debt, helped fix un-employment issues and rose to a very powerful nation. I do not support Nazi'ism but I support Nationalism as long as it not based around the genocide of others.

Why has it gotten to the stage where the Islamics are allying with people such as David Duke as well as many people who are considered Neo-Nazis? Being semetic you would think we hated them... Irony anyone?

I love being Celtic/Nordic, I have a large interest in my ancestors history and way of life and one thing I know for certain is that race does exist, henceforth why there is need to examine racism in the world.

I am not saying all this to defend racists, but for people who feel the need to use racism effectively destroying culture, tradition, my admiration for history (Such as the disaster as the Beowulf movie), my way of thinking and way of life. If I have offended anybody then you obviously have missed the whole point in this post, I do not attack people based on race (unless in a jokingly manner) but I see a lot of people who go out of the way to destroy everything rather then rather than work towards fixing the issues. Yelling out "You Nazi Scum deserve to die" isn't going to solve anything, but instead enrage them.

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We are in a forum dedicated a game made by the Japanese people, and many people consider them to be the most intelligent people in the world. Hands up who here knew that the Japs are quite racist? Why do you think they Allied with Hitler? The Japanese where very ethno-centric and refused to mix with people of Non-Japanese ancestory, and now look where they are at.[/color]
Where are they at? If you mean the Japanese who were very ethno-centric, they had atomic bombs dropped on them and lost the war. Japan is where they are at today not because of their policies before World War II, but American presence in the country afterward. Dont try to twist it to support your views.
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So if somebody can put the Facists in their place who will put the commies and anti'fa's in there place?
Why are you bringing up politics? It was never mentioned.
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Black people have their problems and they don't need us to give them a moral boost, by supporting Anti'Facists all they are doing is proving them right. Before you read any further, I do not consider myself a Racist, I just hate how people make it their duty to destroy peoples lives and ruin everything they believe in, their way of life.
How exactly is someone (probably white) making a fictional story showing how ignorant racism is destroying and ruining people's lives? What an odd life you must live if this story is destroying it.

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Racism does not exist because people think they are superior as people like to assume, racism exists to this day because people do stupid things which is oftened considered to be because of their race. I don't like the way the way Maori's always try and intimidate me, they like to act as if they are so much better than us, yet they still act like total bafoons trying to claim we ripped them off and they want their land back... then where is our guns, cigs and blankets? A lot of people see they are making things worse, hanging on to the past as if it is some kind of curse rather than a memory. The fact is I was not around when this shit happened yet I am forced to put up with it.
What stupidity. How is that situation of obvious hypocricy in any way related to this story (which, btw, is the topic of this thread and what my post was directed towards; this is the wrong thread for anything else)?

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Before Hitler came to power Germany had not been a pleasurable place to live since the Classical Era when they gave up their traditional Germanic values and way of life. Hitler brought Germany out of debt, helped fix un-employment issues and rose to a very powerful nation. I do not support Nazi'ism but I support Nationalism as long as it not based around the genocide of others.
You should really do more research before you claim that anti-fascists (what an amibuous term) are liars while praising Hitler's "leadership". But before I go off on my own tangent here, I must remind myself (and hopefully you) that this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

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Why has it gotten to the stage where the Islamics are allying with people such as David Duke as well as many people who are considered Neo-Nazis? Being semetic you would think we hated them... Irony anyone?
Who cares? How is that relevant at all? Is everything about anti-semitism with you? This was a white woman and a black man.

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I do not attack people based on race (unless in a jokingly manner) but I see a lot of people who go out of the way to destroy everything rather then rather than work towards fixing the issues. Yelling out "You Nazi Scum deserve to die" isn't going to solve anything, but instead enrage them.
Do you realize that you're the only one in this entire thread that's used the word nazi (with the exception of me countering your points), right?

Please try to make your points more relevant. As far as I can tell, this topic is about the story. ID is probably a better place for a general article on racism, or whatever you're talking about.
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Where are they at? If you mean the Japanese who were very ethno-centric, they had atomic bombs dropped on them and lost the war. Japan is where they are at today not because of their policies before World War II, but American presence in the country afterward. Dont try to twist it to support your views.
I am not trying to twist anything, I am just stating the truth. You just need to look at Japan today to see they still hold the basic ideas.

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Why are you bringing up politics? It was never mentioned.
Well the title does contain the word "racism"

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What stupidity. How is that situation of obvious hypocricy in any way related to this story (which, btw, is the topic of this thread and what my post was directed towards; this is the wrong thread for anything else)?
Because people seem to not understand why there is racism.

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You should really do more research before you claim that anti-fascists (what an amibuous term) are liars while praising Hitler's "leadership". But before I go off on my own tangent here, I must remind myself (and hopefully you) that this has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.
Perhaps because I have talked to several people which chose to label themselves Anti'Fas and the majority of what they said is utter bullshit.

I brought this up cause I am sick of hearing people cry about racism, they said that lady got owned, for what? Somebody who didn't feel uncomfortable around that man? And some lady thought she would take the moral high road... obviously she is so up herself she'd ignore the fact that maybe she felt real anxious or something around him and felt the need to boost the black mans ego (which is way to huge as it is already) people always claim racism is bad but they do not understand the meaning behind it, nor try to fix it. Sorry if I had written too much but I can't exactly sum it up in one sentence.
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Well the title does contain the word "racism"
Exactly, not politics. Look in any thesauraus and you'll find that they aren't synonyms. Racism is perfectly capable of being talked about without the need to discuss forms of government.

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Because people seem to not understand why there is racism.
Why there is racism differs from person to person and ranges from fear of difference to people being taught racism to bad experiences with people that were coincidently of the same race. Sorry, but you don't get to dictate why racism happens in as nice and neat a package as that.

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Perhaps because I have talked to several people which chose to label themselves Anti'Fas and the majority of what they said is utter bullshit.
Then either you've talked only to idiots and have made the assumption that all "anti-fascists" are that way or you're a fascist and therefor obviously think that "anti-fascism" is bullshit.

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I brought this up cause I am sick of hearing people cry about racism, they said that lady got owned, for what? Somebody who didn't feel uncomfortable around that man? And some lady thought she would take the moral high road... obviously she is so up herself she'd ignore the fact that maybe she felt real anxious or something around him and felt the need to boost the black mans ego (which is way to huge as it is already) people always claim racism is bad but they do not understand the meaning behind it, nor try to fix it.
You knew this black man? How on Earth do you know that his ego is inflated? You must be quite psychic. And yes, what an awful woman she is for being disgusted by the woman's hate of the black man that she didn't know. Why couldn't she say something like "Oh of course madam, You don't need to sit with this scum sub-human."? What a bitch.
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