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Old 09-17-2006, 04:48 AM Level: 21   HP: 72 / 509
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please, enlighten me to something worse. That's complete and utter bullshit right there.
I suspect that more than half of the population of the United States (as well as the world) believes in a whole lot of strange things, not just the incredible non-existent "WMDs" of Saddam Hussein. Just listing a few I have noticed or read about:

A personal god with an overarching interest in their sex lives

A young earth
Creationism
The earth as center of the solar system

An historical Jesus
The literal veracity of the bible
Angels
A literal heaven and hell
The "return" of "Jesus"
Armageddon
That atheists are intrinsically immoral

That any form of relationship other than a formalized serial monogamy between exactly one woman and one man is universally "immoral"
That until age 18, people "should be" disinterested in sex or smoking, and disallowed from alcohol until 21 , and then will miraculously become responsible drinkers, married breeders and will abstain from smoking, or perhaps will smoke just enough to maintain the profits of the tobacco producers.

That any non-US-sanctioned drugs are universally evil and people distributing or indulging in them universally bad.
That impoverishing and incarcerating a large percentage of their population will protect them from the results of crime.

That the Americas were largely unpopulated when Europeans first arrived here
That the native tribes were wandering, impoverished hunter gatherers who eked out a pitiful living until taught how to farm by the benevolent Europeans
That the United States is a force for good in the world

That Americans are more creative than other people.
That residents of the United States are better off (wealthier) than those of Europe
That the US has a laissez-faire capitalist economy.
That communism is the same as socialism, that both have or will collapse and that this proves the superiority of laissez-faire capitalist economies.
I'm sure that others can contribute to this weird list. Perhaps we should consider this as a project. Cataloging (and preferably sourcing) the weird beliefs of the population of the USA - even better if it also contained a response suggesting why a particular belief should be regarded as tonypandy.

Also, Minister of Witchcraft, Dr Manto Shabalala, is doing her best to persuade HIV+ South Africans that garlic, lemon and beetroot are perfectly adequate substitutes for Anti-retroviral drugs. Depending on the audience, she either persists in the assertion, or denies that she ever made the assertion. When challenged, she claims that the Official proceedings of Parliament have been tampered with in order to make it appear that she had made the assertion that traditional remedies are as effective as ARVs. Meanwhile back in in the Boondocks she says...

Shouting "fire!"in a crowded place when there is in fact no fire, would render one morally (and probably also legally) responsible for any death or injury that might occur in any stampede which might ensue. Not surprisingly there are those who would hold Manto Shabalala morally and legally responsible for any death which might have been prevented while she was "disassembling" about the miracles of olive oil and African sweet potato whilst dragging her elephantine feet over her legal obligation to provide ARVs.

And if think all this asinine or just crazy take a look at this:

Evangelicals And Some Creepy Guy Named Doctor Finger Try To Stifle Cancer Vaccine

[Lucifer: And these idiots claim to be pro-life? Somebody should tell the National Abstinence Clearinghouse that 'proper' sex is always indecent, i.e. When it is in good, in tight and in deep, then it is in decent -- and see if they implode. Interesting Site BTW ]

Source: Evangelical Right
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Dated: 2006-06-07

Late last month a Food and Drug Administration advisory panel unanimously recommended approval of a vaccine for the human papilloma virus (HPV). The vaccine appears to be 100 percent effective at protecting against the most prevalent viruses that cause cervical cancer. While public health professionals view the vaccine as miraculous, many conservative organizations opposed it on the grounds that it might encourage promiscuity among adolescent girls. Now that it appears certain that the FDA will approve the vaccine, conservatives are attempting to discourage its use...

Despite the benefits of the vaccine, conservative organizations began to rally against it last year. One of the most vocal opponents was the Family Research Council. The council “promotes the Judeo-Christian worldview as the basis for a just, free, and stable society.” Last October the council’s president, Tony Perkins, spoke decidedly against the vaccine. Mr. Perkins proclaimed, “Our concern is that this vaccine will be marketed to a segment of the population that should be getting a message about abstinence. It sends the wrong message.” He even stated that he would not vaccinate his 13-year-old daughter."

Another organization that promotes abstinence is the Physicians Consortium. The head of the consortium, Dr. Hal Wallis, was also critical. In his opinion, “If you don’t want to suffer these diseases, you need to abstain, and when you find a partner, stick with that partner.” [Lucifer or better yet just use a condom perhaps?]The founder of the National Abstinence Clearinghouse also opposed the vaccine. This organization was formed “to promote the appreciation for and practice of sexual abstinence (purity) until marriage.” Leslee Unruh, the organization’s founder, stated firmly, “I personally object to vaccinating children against a disease that is 100 percent preventable with proper sexual behavior...”

In 2003 President Bush appointed a medical doctor, Reginald Finger, to the ACIP. Until last fall, Dr. Finger was also the medical affairs analyst for Focus on the Family, the nation’s largest and most powerful evangelical Christian organization. In an effort to gain the support of this group, Merck has been forced to aggressively lobby Focus. Merck has admitted to holding numerous meetings with Dr. Finger at Focus’ headquarters. It’s troubling that a vaccine manufacturer has to be concerned with securing the backing of a conservative Christian organization. And Merck will likely have an uphill battle.

Although children are required to have various vaccinations before attending public schools, conservatives are against the ACIP recommending this for the HPV vaccine. The Christian Medical & Dental Associations is an organization that “exists to glorify God by advancing Biblical principles in bioethics and health to the Church and society.” The group’s executive director, Dr. Gene Rudd, has stated, “While accepting HPV vaccine is morally acceptable, it should not be mandatory.”

And the Family Research Council has gone even farther. While testifying before an ACIP conference the council’s spokesman informed the ACIP that, [color=red]“Because parents have an inherent right to be the primary educator and decision maker regarding their children’s health, we would oppose any measures to legally require vaccination. There is no justification for any vaccination mandate as a condition of public school attendance.” And Focus on the Family issued a formal statement declaring that it “supports widespread (universal) availability of HPV vaccines but opposes mandatory HPV vaccinations for entry to public school.”

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Old 09-17-2006, 05:14 AM Level: 43   HP: 628 / 1061
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That the native tribes were wandering, impoverished hunter gatherers who eked out a pitiful living until taught how to farm by the benevolent Europeans
I thought the evil white devils ruined everything for them?

To keep on topic, I think sexism and feminism are both bullshit, women are told to fight back against ignore sexist pigs and they themselves end up being self-rightous feminists. I mean I wouldn't want to marry a women that doesn't know how to cook and clean, what is the point? Just to be their slave? I like traditional women but I wouldn't abuse them with this shit, sadly those females hardly exist anymore.
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Ten months old or not, you guys are extremely gullible.
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Old 09-17-2006, 08:20 AM Level: 66   HP: 1593 / 1646
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I believe that was ALSO established ten months ago.

Again, I don't really know why this topic was brought back after so long, but since we have no rule against necroposting, we may as well let the conversation run its course. I knew it was a parody when I posted it, too, but I figured it would spark good conversation. Apparently it is if it's bringing people back after nearly a year of inactivity.
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Cesar, I tend to disagree. I don't think reviving this topic is a good idea. I'll let it sit for a little while, but I am leaning towards closing it.

guado_gal, you will receiving a warning for that post. You have already received two pre-warnings for the same kind of posting. So perhaps an actual warning will send the proper message.
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Well, I didn't say that reviving it was a good idea, and if that's what my post implied, I apologize. I was just saying that there wasn't any reason why it couldn't be either, so... eh. But at this rate, I'm tending to agree with you. The only responses at this point will be people who will either say things which were said at the beginning of the thread (it's not my fault people don't read) or spam.

Or... off-topic posts such as this one. I'll just go ahead and shut it down.
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