[LocoColt04]

Umm, technically, yes. Yu Yevon is the bastard that turned all of the final summons into the next Sin.

While it may have been a cliche, I would have felt like I'd been raped and dumped at the side of the road if Tidus hadn't come back. After taking the time nessissary to get through this game I would have been truly pissed off by -Flash to Yuna, 20 years later, "I'm still looking for you. I hope you get this" *puts story of entire game into a bottle and throws it into the ocean*-. It just wouldn't have worked. Sometimes you just have to tell a fairy tale.

I do agree that Tidus sucked, though. I have no idea what Yuna saw in him.

... May I, too, have a cookie?...

Anyways! I'd a been pi$$ed off if Tidus didn't come back. I very much agree with Priority7! All that hard work and ENDLESS sidequests *curses out the stupid sidequests*

And, Priority7? I think I know what Yuna saw in him, even though I think of him as a big *****-WUSS... He's caring, gentle, and -shoot me if this sounds weird- sexy.

A.C.

Eh, that was a badly thought out comment. I was in a hurry. In retrospect, I can see it quite easily, except for the sexy part.

I always have problems with main characters whose personalities clash with my own, and let's face it, If I met Tidus in real life I would probably hate him. At least, at first. I have a weird habit of befriending everyone who I instantly dislike or insult.

I've only played X-2 through the first three chapters... mainly because my stooopid ps2 blew up on me. But I think it would have been a major bummer had Tidus not come back, as I understand.

Can I have that cookie, please?

[Angel of Death]

I just made an extreme breakthrough!!!!!!!!
i'm going to relate cookies to slayer, using final fantasy 10 and 10-2

AKA (delicious to hardcore)

cookies are delicious (crunchy ones are better)
Rikku is also delicious (deliciously hot, that is)
Rikku saved the world
Auron helped too (he's so awesome)
His swords were called blades (super awesome)
In 10-2, Rikku uses blades in the samurai and dark knight dresspheres
Rikku kills people
Rikku is awesome
Slayer is also awesome

That was too easy
Hey! I'm a poet, except I don't rhyme or anything.
Rhyming is for sissies.
Except Slayer
And Megadeth




*Lists bands for 5 hours*

I am so off topic
My love of cookies propelled me to insanity
sweet sweet insanity
ummmmmmmm.........Hey, I'm listening to Korn!
I'm listening to a burned CD
Too much typing
Thinking about punching the cat
Damn cat
You always thwart my plans!
Of world domination!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Um... Congratulations on that... "extreme breakthrough"...

Anyways... Whoever offered up those cookies, bring 'em on out! With a couple extra gallons of milk as well...

... I love cookies... *drools and holds up sign*
A.C.

[Angel of Death]

You said that sarcastically! That's not nice!!! Now I'm listening to Slayer, so I'm very calm.......... and filled with rage. Lots of rage. Any way, get the cookies, and i'll bring the milk!!!!!! Lot's of milk!!!!!

My apologies on my rude behavior. Do you need help carrying the milk in?

A.C.

[Angel of Death]

No man, I'm strong like a beast. *kisses his muscle*
How much do i bring though? How many people want milk?????

... I'll take... two gallons... Well, how elso would I be able to lift this big @$$ sword?! I mean - Katana! How else would I be able to lift this big @$$ KATANA!

A.C.

[Angel of Death]

Okay, so that's four gallons so far. You carry a big a$$ sword too? You're my new friend.
I'm waiting for more milk orders!!

[LocoColt04]

Originally Posted by slayernrikku

I am so off topic

This would also be a prime example of spam, since you were asking me what spam is. Every single post which followed this one was also spam, and completely uncalled for. If you want to spam, go post in Chat Gaming, because it's the forum with a designated spam thread. Knock yourself out, and quit breaking the rules before I decide to knock you out instead.

[Lover Boy]

What's this I see? Two noobs babbling needlessly and raising their post counts with more useless shit? I believe so!

First of all, nice job being an idiot. Yay, you love cookies. Congratulations, you are neither unique nor original (They kinda go hand and hand, the two being synonyms and all)

Everyone loves cookies. It's trite. And your WAY of connecting the two..... horrible. "I like cookies. I like Rikku. I like Slayer." That's all you did. you said three things were awesome. This somehow relates the three. Upon further research of common sense, I have discovered the following:

Slayer is a shitty band. The band plays "music".
The Cookie is a delicious treat. A "Food".
Rikku is a cliche and poorly planned character to an even more horrible game. a "Pile of shit".

After further review of my essay, you will soon come to terms with the fact that you are both dumbasses, and are due for a warning/ban.

Thanx, YUNA!!!!!

It all makes sense now!!!! So it WAS the FAYTH after all!!!! I had actually thought about it myself.... but never could get all the pieces together..

Speaking of FF X, I think that spira and the characters all could be used for a third part, since they are all rich characters...

Yuna, would you like me to tell you my ideas for it?? I´ve been thinking a lot bout it, and I think I´ve come up with something good, but could use development... hehehe!

i think you are correct in your thoughts about why and how tidus comes back. it does make sense. the fayth would have know about the bond between tidus and yuna, and they would be greatful for being able to sleep again. yuna gave them the change to rest not once, but twice. in there gratitude they gave yuna the thing she wanted most in the world, tidus. i haven't gotten the perfect ending yet, but i am working on it. i remember meachun ( if i spelled that right), the unsent elder telling yuna and copany that there was a way to get back that which was lost.

[Bryan 2.0]

Originally Posted by Yuna

This thread contains massive spoilers for both FFX and FFX-2.

Okay, when I first beat FFX-2 perfectly and got Tidus back, I was in complete disbelief that this could happen in the world which FFX left. I thought to myself that if Tidus could come back, then so could Sin and all the Aeons, thus totally nullifying all which had taken place in FFX. The more I thought about it, the more it came to make sense that there was a logical way for Tidus to come back without throwing away the facts pressented in FFX. First we have to start with the relation that everything has to everything - ie: Sin.

What is Sin?
Sin is the armor Yu Yevon wears to bring its chaos. SIn itself is the mutated form of the Final Aeon Summoned at the final battle between Sin and a Summoner. The Final Aeon is not an Aeon of the Fayth, but an Aeon created out of devotion to a Summoner. It is another person sacrificed out of love/friendship.

What is Yu Yevon?
Yevon was the govoner of Zanarkand 1000 years before FFX took place. He was Yunaleska's father. He was also a Summoner, as was Yunaleska. (This is why I think they named Yuna after Yunaleska because she too followed in her father's footsteps as a Summoner). Zanarkand was the city of summoners back when Yevon ruled it (so it is said). Yevon would have rather destroyed Zanarkand himself then let Bevelle destroy it, so he did. He then turned the populace of Zanarkand into Fayth. He used his Aeons to create the armor that is Sin. The only method that could defeat Sin was the Summoning the Final Aeons.

Why was Sin there?
The games tells you it is punishment for Spira's "sins". This isn't true. By taking control of the Fayth's Final Aeon, Yu Yevon forces Zanarkand to be recreated in a dream the way it was when he destroyed. Hence why, at the end of FF you see Jecht in what appears to be Zanarkand. When the Final Summoning occurs, this dream of Zanarkand is destroyed, which is why Yu Yevon in turn takes control of the Final Aeon so he will be reborn again, and continue his dream of Zanarkand.

Why do the Fayth need Sin to be destroyed in order to sleep?
By now this should be obvious. Yu Yevon is forcing the Fayth to dream his dream of Zanarkand each time he takes hold of another Aeon. Once all the Aeons are gone, Yu Yevon will have no hold over the Fayth, and therefore, the Fayth can sleep.

What does this have to do with Tidus?
Tidus is a Dream of the Fayth; he is a being of the dream that Yu Yevon is forcing the Fayth to dream (Zanarkand). Because they wanted to rest, he dissapeared, leaving Spira and Yuna at the end of FFX.

How did Tidus get to SPira from the "dream"?
Sin can't control this dream since it is forcing the Fayth to dream it. My interpretation is that the Fayth were waiting until they could find the dream that would end all of their dreams. It started with Jecht and ended with Tidus. Jecht used Auron, an unsent, to go between Spira and the dream.

If the Fayth sleep, how come Aeons came back in FFX-2?
I believe this lies in the connection Vegnegun had with the Fayth and the Pyreflies reaction to Yuna's memories. The Fayth can't sleep as long as Vegengun is awake. Therefore, a butchered reincarnation of the Aeons is possible through the connection Vegnegun has with the Aeon's Fayth, and the connection Yuna's memories have with the Pyreflies. Yuna and friends are the only ones to see the Aeons, so this theory is supported by the Farplane facts. Other's memories are visable to others while they are there. The memories made real by the Fayth who are now awake, and controled by Vegnegun who wont let them sleep. That's my take on it anywho =3

So... Tidus can come back... how?
The Fayth are mearly sleeping, they are not gone nor dead. Tidus is their reward to Yuna for saving their butts, AGAIN (at least I think). Like Tidus said, the Fayth gathered up his thoughts to recreate him. He exists again becuase of the bond Yuna and him share. As long as this bond is never broken, Tidus will remain by her side... or so he thinks (Tidus isn't too good with for sures).

So, since Yu Yevon is gone, Sin can never return. And even though the Fayth sleep, Tidus's memories of himself and thoughts create him, as well as Yuna's bond to him. Stranger things in FF's have happened, so I guess this I can buy. At least Yuna had to work REALLY hard to get her man back XD;

But yeah, that's just my take on the whole thing. You don't have to aggree with me, but after lots and lots of thought, that's how I think it could work out after examining all the facts from FFX. It's the only plausable explanation, ^^;

I'll stop blabbering now with my insane FFX fandom x_X;;

Damn. That is seriously in depth. I'm not bashing the fact that it is in depth, because it is actually pretty impressive. Made me think a bit about it. Good job for you!

Lol... yeah, I'm a big fat weirdo-dork and should be slapped or something. Hehe... sometimes I think too much =3

ive been eating cookies all day(so sick)
i just got to read this post for the first time today, and i agree with what yuna is saying about the possibility of tidus coming back. i hadnt stopped and thought about it in such an in depth manner myself, but once ive read it i can see the logic.
and yes games are made with the purpose of entertainment. but entertainment is not the sole purpose. if it was do you think that the makers of ff would try as hard as they do to continually change the game and the story and the way we play it. games are made as a challenge for us. would any of you like a game that was so easy that you could but it and beat it in a day or less? mabey not even that. would you enjoy a game that was hours long but had no challenge and everything was given to you? i would not. im just say ing that games are games and they have a story for a reason. to make us think about it. i dont think yuna spent to much time thinking bout it and i thank her very much for the insight she has shared.

[BushidoWarrior]

First of all, stop with the god damn cookies!!! I agree with most of the second half of the post but not the first half. Are you sure that Yevon was the ruler of Zanarkand. I thought he was just a made-up deity. Also, when you defeated Sin, it looked like all of the Fayth turned to stone and did die. They where created for the sole purpose of fighting Bevelle's army (If you remember, they came before Sin. They appeared from Mt. Gagazet singing the hymn of the Fayth which scared Bevelle's army away.) (I guess that would make sense then if Yevon was Zanarkand's ruler. If so, are Yevon and Yu Yevon the same thing?) Those ones, however, are only the ones at Fayth Scar, which were later controled by Yu Yevon to create the dream Zanarkand. The Fayth in the temples, I think, were created later to battle Sin. So it would make sense then for them to die. I guess I agree with you that Yevon was Zanarkand's ruler. So then Sin was just Zanarkand's retribution? OK, here is what I think: The Fayth are dead. Lots of dead people become fiends. So the evil Aeons are just fiend versions of the Fayth. The dead Fayth brought Tidus back to life 'cause they're powerful and can do that. That's my opinion on that. Rikku rules!!! Final Fantasy X is the best!!!