sephiroth

penelo rocks · 05-02-2006, 09:03 AM

does anyone here think that sephiroth could of been much more "good" if he found out he was not created in a tube but he had a natural birth.

Palazzo · 05-02-2006, 12:23 PM

He did have a natural birth, he just had Jenova cells injected into him while he was in his mother's womb.

Anomaly · 05-02-2006, 06:40 PM

Which in turn makes him the worlds only known functioning Jenova-Human hybrid. Couple that with the fact he was already a blood soaked war veteran with a rather cold nature and Hojo as a biological father and i'm not sure he would've been 'good' per say. Maybe 'nicer' but not exactly 'good'.

Palazzo · 05-02-2006, 08:14 PM

Not a hybrid. A hybrid is like Terra in VI, the offspring of two different species.

I know what you mean though.

Removed · 05-02-2006, 08:30 PM

He would have been exactly as he was before the Nibelheim incident.

Killer Cloud255 · 05-02-2006, 11:05 PM

and he was meant to be a nice enough guy before the whole nibleheim thing.

05-03-2006, 07:38 AM

If he hadn't realized his background I think he still have been in SOLDIER, fighting for Shin-Ra. Then it is your own opinion that decides if that is "good" OR "bad".

fosterkid · 05-03-2006, 10:05 AM

wasnt cloud injected with the cells to? he stayed the same. but i think he would have been fighting hojo insted of the world.

05-03-2006, 10:40 AM

After what I've heard in the game Cloud only is showered w/ Mako, is that what you're thinking about?

penelo rocks · 05-03-2006, 10:43 AM

1. what i mean by "Good" is that he does not want to destroy the world!

fosterkid · 05-03-2006, 10:43 AM

could be ah hell i dunno its been a while since i ownd the game let along playd it

Palazzo · 05-03-2006, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fosterkid

wasnt cloud injected with the cells to? he stayed the same. but i think he would have been fighting hojo insted of the world.

Yes, he was and that's what screwed with his mind to make him basically believe that he was Zack.

Anomaly · 05-03-2006, 06:58 PM

And it is evident from the movie and the Ultimania guide that Cloud was injected and experimented o nas the other residents of Nibelheim were 5 years ago (7 years ago by the movie actually). Which as Palazzo points out is what broke his mind more than anything and is actually also why he confuses himself with Zack at the start of the game.

Weak willed people like Cloud are easily taken in and deceived by Jenova. Strong willed people like Zack and Sephiroth can bend the instincts of Jenova to their will.

And yes...I suppose a pure hybrid would be one that would've been born from a Jenova egg. Still, I think enough genetic material bonded to Sephiroth to render him close enough to that purity as makes no difference. I believe that, coupled with Hojo's genetics, is what made Sephiroth such a cold and calous individual that saw no value in human life. Even before he was a monster, he was a killer.

05-02-2006, 09:03 AM	#1 (permalink)
penelo rocks Join Date: May 2006 Location: portsmouth Age: 19 Posts: 189	sephiroth does anyone here think that sephiroth could of been much more "good" if he found out he was not created in a tube but he had a natural birth. __________________ 'Dont listen to Ondors lies' vann, final fantasy XII

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Anomaly Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hellish Heaven Age: 23 Posts: 1,077	Which in turn makes him the worlds only known functioning Jenova-Human hybrid. Couple that with the fact he was already a blood soaked war veteran with a rather cold nature and Hojo as a biological father and i'm not sure he would've been 'good' per say. Maybe 'nicer' but not exactly 'good'. __________________ †Awaken† As I stood here at the break of eternity The planets realigned to hide the sun The moon was red and the sky turns black - The Dragon roared in rage And I was silent, waiting for a sign But on the ninth day the earth did not open There was thunder but no rain - The Dragon howled five names

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fosterkid Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: missouri Age: 21 Posts: 354	wasnt cloud injected with the cells to? he stayed the same. but i think he would have been fighting hojo insted of the world. __________________ The fighting rages on and on...to challange me you must be strong.

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penelo rocks Join Date: May 2006 Location: portsmouth Age: 19 Posts: 189	1. what i mean by "Good" is that he does not want to destroy the world! __________________ 'Dont listen to Ondors lies' vann, final fantasy XII

05-02-2006, 12:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
Palazzo Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 914	He did have a natural birth, he just had Jenova cells injected into him while he was in his mother's womb.

05-02-2006, 08:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
Palazzo Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 914	Not a hybrid. A hybrid is like Terra in VI, the offspring of two different species. I know what you mean though.

05-02-2006, 08:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Removed Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 359	He would have been exactly as he was before the Nibelheim incident.

05-03-2006, 07:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
kr1sse Guest Posts: n/a	If he hadn't realized his background I think he still have been in SOLDIER, fighting for Shin-Ra. Then it is your own opinion that decides if that is "good" OR "bad".

05-03-2006, 10:40 AM	#9 (permalink)
kr1sse Guest Posts: n/a	After what I've heard in the game Cloud only is showered w/ Mako, is that what you're thinking about?

05-03-2006, 10:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
fosterkid Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: missouri Age: 21 Posts: 354	could be ah hell i dunno its been a while since i ownd the game let along playd it __________________ The fighting rages on and on...to challange me you must be strong.

05-03-2006, 06:58 PM	#13 (permalink)
Anomaly Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Hellish Heaven Age: 23 Posts: 1,077	And it is evident from the movie and the Ultimania guide that Cloud was injected and experimented o nas the other residents of Nibelheim were 5 years ago (7 years ago by the movie actually). Which as Palazzo points out is what broke his mind more than anything and is actually also why he confuses himself with Zack at the start of the game. Weak willed people like Cloud are easily taken in and deceived by Jenova. Strong willed people like Zack and Sephiroth can bend the instincts of Jenova to their will. And yes...I suppose a pure hybrid would be one that would've been born from a Jenova egg. Still, I think enough genetic material bonded to Sephiroth to render him close enough to that purity as makes no difference. I believe that, coupled with Hojo's genetics, is what made Sephiroth such a cold and calous individual that saw no value in human life. Even before he was a monster, he was a killer. __________________ †Awaken† As I stood here at the break of eternity The planets realigned to hide the sun The moon was red and the sky turns black - The Dragon roared in rage And I was silent, waiting for a sign But on the ninth day the earth did not open There was thunder but no rain - The Dragon howled five names Last edited by Anomaly; 05-03-2006 at 07:02 PM.

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