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Old 01-01-2004, 12:10 AM Level: 59  HP: 804 / 1473
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Who is GoGo?

Who is GoGo? Is it a man? Is it a woman? Is it General Leo come back from the dead, who decided to remain anonomyous and just go with the group once more, covering his old and decrepid body with lots of rags...

or some unknown creature from the Xth demension we just dont want to know about

Or Kefkas love slave gone awry?

Who do you think? What do you know?
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I have no absolutely no idea who Gogo is, only guesses.

I think Gogo is a male, probably middle aged 30's. I would say he is probably an adventurer, that has pretty much retired until you find him. Probably wandering the world observing, rarely acting in any events. When found he probably realizes this is his chance to come out of the shadows, and once more go on an adventure. An important one at that, saving the world.

That's my guess...
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You know, I'm one of those people who'd argue that it's Daryl.

You know, Setzer's lover?

I mean, when you find her airship, it's really not in bad shape. In fact, correct me if I'm wrong, but does he ever actually say she's dead? Did anyone ever find her body? There's a pretty good chance, and if you think about it, you couldn't find her body if she's wrapped up in a ZoneEater. If the game had voiceovers, perhaps we'd know, but since it doesn't...


That's speculation number one. I might agree with someone else later.
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Hehe yes, Daryl is probably the biggest roumer right now... odd that she has a tomb, but its not like we don't make tombs for the dead though the body is actually not buried at that location... im sure

Im thinkin about naming my GoGo Daryl just cuz of it

There is also the fanatics that say GoGo is actually General Leo... just cuz they want him back, but he was too badass to go into being GoGo. There has also been talk GoGo is Gilgamesh, but that would be weird since Gilgy already has an appearance in the game

Now, the best explanation im going to attribute to a man at gamefaqs... who quoted someone else... so essentailly its a quote of a quote... this one I find the best researched anyways

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The more recent (and even more popular) theory is that Gogo is Adlai Stevenson, a long deceased politician. Before you burst out laughing, read this piece (from a post on the GameFAQs Final Fantasy III Message Board [I do not know who originally posted this information, though]):

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I have tried, over the months, to convince you people to stop arguing over who gogo is accept the fact that he is Adlai Stevenson, former governor of Illinois and failed Democratic presidential candidate in 1952 and 1956.

Here is ALL the proof, and if you need more, you're sick.

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I am always amazed by the resistance offered to progress, even the most inocous progress. Imagine, if you will, jumping from one rickety bridge to another, with blind men running back and forth trying to push you off, and you will have some idea what legislating progress is like. The good news is that if you're pushed off, you can always climb back up and try again.
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Stevenson's ex-wife once wrote a book about him called The Egghead and
I. In 1952, one of his campaign slogans was "Stevenson - The Experienced Candidate."

When you first meet Gogo, he says "I have been idle for too long." Possibly referring to the fact that Stevenson had been dead for 30 years when Final Fantasy VI came out.

A number of years ago a bill was passed regarding the transfer of funds among government-owned, government-operated (GOGO) laboratories. What was the name of this bill? The STEVENSON-Wydler Act, of course.
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This is, of course, inaccurate considering Quotes 1, 4 and 5 as well as the Exp. Egg arguments are all based on Final Fantasy VI relations, and the Gogo character first appeared in Final Fantasy V (you "fight" him to obtain the Mime job class). But in all fairness the parallels between Gogo and Adlai Stevenson are entirely *too* coincidental
Im am deffinatly not as intellegent to make such parallels, someone along the line had to make these connections... and I tip my hat to such person...
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Damn! I'm convince now that its true gogo if a former US polititian. Thats some crazy shit. I wonder if the japanese version had the same shit.
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Its Banon.

I mean, where does he go when the world changes? Theres no way Banon was destroyed with Vector, he was just too cool. He was stranded on an island, and he was eaten, and mastered his skills while in the stomach of whatever eats people, I forget the name.
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"He was stranded on an island, and he was eaten"

Oh man, that's gold right there. GOLD.
And it's the ZoneEater.



Anywho, I've seen the Adlai reference before, and that cracked me up then just like it did now. It never gets old, does it?

I'm gonna say that Gogo is Shadow if you forget to wait for him in the first half of the game. Yeah. And so then, he's magically gotta become someone else in the second half if you saved Shadow, right? Okay, well, it's Duncan, but he's tricking you. See, when you're approaching his house in the WoR, he runs away from your party (no one notices, of course) and changes in a back room. Yep, that's how it goes. And then he just changes again when you decide to leave. However, if he misses the airship, then he uhh... umm... curls up in a ball next to his house and pretends to be sleeping and when you come back, you can say that Duncan left for some items in town even though he's really right in front of you and you don't know it. Yeah.

Try saying that in one breath.


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Hehe yes, Daryl is probably the biggest roumer right now... odd that she has a tomb, but its not like we don't make tombs for the dead though the body is actually not buried at that location... im sure

Im thinkin about naming my GoGo Daryl just cuz of it

There is also the fanatics that say GoGo is actually General Leo... just cuz they want him back, but he was too badass to go into being GoGo. There has also been talk GoGo is Gilgamesh, but that would be weird since Gilgy already has an appearance in the game

Now, the best explanation im going to attribute to a man at gamefaqs... who quoted someone else... so essentailly its a quote of a quote... this one I find the best researched anyways.


Quote:
The more recent (and even more popular) theory is that Gogo is Adlai Stevenson, a long deceased politician. Before you burst out laughing, read this piece (from a post on the GameFAQs Final Fantasy III Message Board [I do not know who originally posted this information, though]):

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I have tried, over the months, to convince you people to stop arguing over who gogo is accept the fact that he is Adlai Stevenson, former governor of Illinois and failed Democratic presidential candidate in 1952 and 1956.

Here is ALL the proof, and if you need more, you're sick.

Quote #1
I am always amazed by the resistance offered to progress, even the most inocous progress. Imagine, if you will, jumping from one rickety bridge to another, with blind men running back and forth trying to push you off, and you will have some idea what legislating progress is like. The good news is that if you're pushed off, you can always climb back up and try again.
- from his book ''What I Think''

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I suppose I could wear a hat, but them my teeth would fall out to spite me. I could get false ones, but doubtless then I would get fat just to prove my teeth work. The easiest course is to drape my whole body in robes and shawls and hope no one recognizes my eyes.
- Commenting about his baldness to an NBC reporter in 1952

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President Eisenhower continues to amaze me. He appears to be an ungainly and graceless man, but when [senator Robert] Taft makes a move, no matter how ridiculous, Eisenhower copies it with the skill of [French mime] Marcel Merceau. I haven't achieved such levels of mimicry with my own party, but I'm working on it.
- 1952 interview

Quote #4
The legislature is a frightening thing. To this day the state capitol building seems to me a beast ready to swallow me up; the very walls and cielings seem to crush you as you walk through it.
- from his book ''Friends and Enemies''

Quote #5
Today we are plunged into a battle that is familiar to us. the enemies and the problems are the same. But the terrain is different. The world around us has changed and shifted so much we no longer recognize it.
- Giving a speech at Charlottesville, 1960

Experience Egg
Stevenson's ex-wife once wrote a book about him called The Egghead and
I. In 1952, one of his campaign slogans was "Stevenson - The Experienced Candidate."

When you first meet Gogo, he says "I have been idle for too long." Possibly referring to the fact that Stevenson had been dead for 30 years when Final Fantasy VI came out.

A number of years ago a bill was passed regarding the transfer of funds among government-owned, government-operated (GOGO) laboratories. What was the name of this bill? The STEVENSON-Wydler Act, of course.
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''''''

This is, of course, inaccurate considering Quotes 1, 4 and 5 as well as the Exp. Egg arguments are all based on Final Fantasy VI relations, and the Gogo character first appeared in Final Fantasy V (you "fight" him to obtain the Mime job class). But in all fairness the parallels between Gogo and Adlai Stevenson are entirely *too* coincidental
Im am deffinatly not as intellegent to make such parallels, someone along the line had to make these connections... and I tip my hat to such person...
Go to Google, type in: gogo adlai stevenson, hit the "I'm feeling lucky!" button. That should answer any questions you might have over the Gogo/Adlai Stevenson thing.
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The sad thing is, the whole Gogo/Adlai Stevenson thing really works. Holy shit. I wish I had that much time on my hands.

Let's put it this way: Gogo is some weird mime. Who was eaten by a big worm. That's it. He has absolutely no relation whatsoever to anybody. He's just some weird mime guy that you find. End of story.

But that's no fun. I'm thinking that Square put him there and purposely left the different ideas as to who he/she/it is (Banon, Daryl, Siegfried, etc.) up to the gamer. It's just for fun.
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Just go to the link in my signature. At least it gives a logical assessment of this sorry excuse for conspiracy theory (as well as info on who started it, etc). That doesn't mean it's right. Just probably right.
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Though I find that website interesting, and it may have a valid point, I don't think it really proves anything... call it a conspiracy theory, but proving it right or wrong changes nothing, because the conspiracy itself is really nothing except a humerous joke in the first place.

that and I find it rather... interesting that somebody would go through all that effort to prove a speculation/humorous theory wrong... but thats just me... some people have different priorities

The way I see it... the Gogo=Adlai is just like the girls are evil formula... its humerous, it has some established fact, but does not nessecarily mean girls are evil does it? You don't see websites trying to prove the girls are evil formula wrong do you?
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that and I find it rather... interesting that somebody would go through all that effort to prove a speculation/humorous theory wrong... but thats just me... some people have different priorities
Well, like I said, I wish I had that much time on my hands. It'd make my life easier.

Anyway, I just think that Gogo is just some weird mime that you find who was eaten by the ZoneEater. Sorry to ruin for you all, but he's no one special.
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Well DUH thats the answer, but wheres the fun in that? We all know hes just a special character created for our amusement, but the point of this topic is to see what kind of speculation and ideas can be framed around this mysterious character. I think that was part of the fun of making him, he has not history, so why not make one for him? I see it as making the character more interesting that way.
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Gogo? Probably some gay old creep (in his 90s) tryin to make some use of his old self. Oh yeah, and when I said HIS old self, I wasnt thinking that Gogo is a guy. Hes probably 10% Evil, 20% Gay, 5% Human, 5% male, 10% female, 45% Creature, and 5% bisexual
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