[Jin]

well, you know what, forget, it's probably best that this is dropped. Any ways, about edward's heal ability: at first I thought that it was good, because it was like free healing...until I actually read what it did and found that it took potions from mmy invantory lol. man I was even more pissed at edward then i normally was. I killed that bastard myself lol.

[Dawezy]

Ease up Jinn, he just agree's with my opinion on the Dark Wave. He isnt mimic-ing me at all.


For the record, Dark Wave owns everyone, therefore you're all its bitch. XD

Originally Posted by Jintatsu

Any ways, about edward's heal ability: at first I thought that it was good, because it was like free healing...until I actually read what it did and found that it took potions from mmy invantory

Exact same thing happened here the first time I thought it was free healing too until I ran out of potions and it started failing.


Edit: Removed profanity, I'm eighteen for your information, and all the moderators bypass the censors. I thought they were spose to set an example for the rest of the members. Guess that's just another example of how you guys are above TFF law. For example Arus Kim's custom title is 'artifical F l U l C l K' how is this jusified? Coruption among the mods I say!!! (I think I just killed the word example) Pre-warning? Ha! I've got pre-warnings up the ying yang because every mod I come across acts all omnipotent, and they expect that all the members are god-fearing! After doing a quick search on TFF I found the word c*nt show up in 13 threads, the word f*ck in 25 threads and the word sh*t in an astonishing 500 threads. Now lets say you don't have a vendeta against me and you really were concern about the kids, wouldn't you have edited and censored my post yourself?

[Walter Sobchak]

Kid, grow up. There are censors on this forum for a reason. Little kids that play Final Fantasy are looking through the internet, and our webmaster designated this site as family friendly. Now, I know at the age of thirteen or fourteen its cool to bypass censors and swear, but I dont like it. Since you have pissed me off already, I am going to give you a pre-warning.

[Omega]

Whatever with all this prewarning/swearing crap. Piss off, Dark Wave is easily the worst ability in the game, next to Edward's Heal, and Cid's Peep as they were just pointless.

Jump has no downside...period.

End of discussion.

C'mon now Cobain, every skill has a down side thats why know one agrees on just one. Even jump has its downsides, though not many thats for sure. The thing I didn't like about jump is the charge time, if you didn't time it right you would jump down on the Mist Dragon while he was in the water, and nobody wants the 75 damage done to their party. And when he is in the air he can't be healed, I've found myself many times with a dead Kain because he missed out on healing. To tell you the truth at the end of the game I usually give Kain that sword that causes berserk(Avenger I believe) and it does more damage that the Holy lance and he doesn't miss out on healing and I don't have to press buttons for him.

[Walter Sobchak]

Wow, what does what other people have to do with what I do? I do not bypass the censor, under any circumstances. What other moderators do in forums I do not moderate is their business and the moderators of that forums business, not mine. Go break the rules of another forum, but in mine I try to follow the rules set by the administrators.

[Dawezy]

Shame so much bullshit emotions come from such a simple thread.

Was going good until the opinions threw shit at each other, heh, reminds me of a certain religon i love to hate but that being said, theres no need for this bickering to continue.

Oh, I bypass the censor for fun because I swear all the time here in reality so it just wouldnt be right without it.


EDIT: Reopened the thread, If there is any more bitching to the extent of the previous page, I'll close it.

I heif voted for summon for a few simple reasons. Most importantly however it's because FF4 makes you WORK for your summons. Think about it, if you really didn't care about summons, you could beat the game and indra, shiva, jinn, and titan would be the best you got.
Ahem.
Also I like 'em for this reason: There is nothing better than getting your ass kicked in ff2(american "easytype, yeah whatever say what you like) then releasing Ashura and seeing your health get restored by like 5-6 thousand, and your character has only 2 or so thousand.

Hahaha

Twin was the most awesome move. Just because it wasn't the best move all the time it did kick ***. It was a wicked move. And its not like all the other moves, its brought something new to the series. And also Polom and Porom were twins and they could cause massive amounts of damage.

I think that they were landmark characters that should never be forgotten. Ohh yeah, and the Pig move ROCKED!

Too bad they were stupid. They could have easily blown a hole in the wall or something. Why didn't they just tell the old man to hold his arms out and cast it on him? I know he would not have gotten his revenge for his daughter but he could have just left the burden on them.

They were only kids, and should we give the young'ns a chance. "You should'n uh dun that, he's jus a boy"

Wonder Twin Powers Activate

[Gorath Sodom]

Cecil's basic attack with the Crystal Sword. It pwn5 everyone else in terms of damage and simplicity.

[King Fenii]

Dark Wave is pretty neat, but Jump is simply the best. Why? Well, it's quite simple, you ca be at a low level and still defeat an enemy that is superior. If you jump, Kain will still be alive in the air, while the others bite the dust. Then he can (try) to revive the whole party and overrule the enemy.

I just said that about a low-level party, but if your party is at a high level, the results are devastating...(bow down to Kain!)

[Elf]

My favorite abilities are Jump, Summon, and Twin. I always found jump useful in most battles. Not only does Kain get to do twice as much damage, he gets to avoid damage for a turn as well. Of course he misses out on any group cures at the time, but more often than not, the avoided damage makes up for it. I like summon because (for most summons) it does a good amount of damage to all enemies, plus they are generally pretty cool looking, and I tend to favor magic. Twin is cool because it is a unique concept (having two people using one joint attack) and is fairly strong at first, especially with Comet.

I favor Jump and Steal/Throw.

Jump because It allows for dealing damage while dodging it, and Steal/Throw
because I like taking things and flinging them everywhere....

trying to get back on topic dark wave sucked ass,summon was very usefu but was expensive on the mp and twin was also useful all character had there ups but kains JUMP takes the cake! You cant take damage and you can dish it out right back into the enemies face Lol very good game

summoner!!!! nothing looks cooler than summoning up summon spirits

[Dragoon_Nick]

Jumping was the fun of the game. Especially on GBA(Sorry to slightly spoil) where Kain may double jump which is a 9999 dmg attack .

[Sasquatch]

Jump does have downsides. It takes longer than a normal attack to prepare for. It also takes longer to actually carry out, which means sometimes it's just not worth it, as Kain could have attacked at least twice before he lands his Jump, and Jump doesn't do that much extra damage anyway.

I'd definitely have to go with Summon on this one. Hits all, regardless of statuses (Reflect, Blink, etc.), and does great damage. There are non-elemental Summons, such as Bahamut, which do plenty of damage regardless of the enemy, and then you have Asura, which can heal or revive or protect, though I don't like that it's completely random. And with as much MP as Rydia ends up with, Summons are more efficient than Jump any day of the week.

EDIT: I also like Rosa's Aim, because it made the bow and arrow more powerful, and much more accurate. I never bother with bows and arrows for anybody except Rosa (save Cecil, finding the Dark Elf), because they would just be a waste of arrows. And, of course, Jump as well, but I was just pointing out that it does have marks against it.

Jump had its downsides, like most of the abilities.

Summon was however, later in the game, easily the best. The most useless, next to either Heal or Peek was Tellah's stupid ability (Remember or something).

95% of the time you got nothin. the other 5% it was something like Bolt 2 or some essentially pointless spell.

[Yukin]

Summon's the best ability bcoz Jump has disadvantages over enemies and some things...