Anyone else having a hard time getting the Onion Gauntlets?

I have 8 shields and swords, and 4 of each armour and helms, but still no gauntlets!!

[Hannya]

Is there the onion knight job in the remade version of FF3 for the DS?

[david_pickett_84]

Originally Posted by Starman

Is there the onion knight job in the remade version of FF3 for the DS?

I'm going to ignore the obvious chance to flame and just provide some good old fasioned information, regarding the Onion Knight, all the information, again.

This should answer ANY and ALL Onion Knight questions.

I figured this was the best place for this...Props to Patrick Chang for a great FAQ on the Onion Knight

Game- Final Fantasy III
System- NDS
Genre- RPG
Developer- Square
Series- Final Fantasy
Version-1.5

This is a guide describing one of the most coveted classes in III.
Many players yearn for it, because of it's godly powers and abilities.
This guide will go over how to obtain, use, train, and wield them to
their fullest. Be warned however, as their will be spoilers.


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Table Of Contents

I. Introduction
II. How to Obtain
III.Stats
IV. Weapons/Armor
V. Magic
VI. Onion Equipment
VII.How to train
VIII. FAQ
IX. Master Blacksmith
X. Strategy
XI. Version Updates
XII. Legal Issues
XIII. Credits
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I. Introduction

The Onion Knight was once the class for the original
III. In the remake, there's . Onion Knights are
now a secret class, obtainable via . See section II for how to
obtain. Now, Onion Knights aren't Knights of Onion. They are
what you'd call "Late Bloomers". At first, they have horrible stats.
And their gains are even worse. But near Level 90+, more precise,
Level 93, their gains go crazy. I'm not talking about Job Level.
I mean LEVEL! This is a hard task , but it's very
rewarding. They can do anything. They can equip every non- job mastery
item, and use all magic. Like from the old III.
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II. How to Obtain

First get 7 and register them on your Address Book. Have the other
7 players do so as well. Remember, they do not have to be the same ones.
You can have person A,B,,D. And Person B could have A,U, and .
So you need to send and 7 messages from them. And during which,
you should also mail , the elder from (the town)
and do it until you've mailed him 3 times. Now, if you've added your
friend's , and they've added yours, either of you can go to "send Mail"
and send each other mail. When you've done your mailing, go and mail
for the time. This shall get you a distress signal. He'll want
you to come back and save little kids. Oh joy... a mission.
It'll be well worth it though, because, well you'll see.
After you talk to , go north to the cave and keep going forward.
You'll eventually meet the 3 kids, trapped against a wall by 3 Bombs.

Bomb
LV-16
HP: 315
Gil: 110
EXP: 400
Weakness: Ice, Water
Att: 31
Def: 19

Not much to say here, just be prepared, around level 18+.
If you have Blizzard or Blizzaga, it'll be easy as pie. Just be careful,
incase they get the better of you and get first strike.

When they are defeated, the kids say a "THANKS!" and leave. Wow, we risk
our butts out there, just to get "THANKS!". Not quite. Seems like one of
them found a Crystal Shard, and we get it. is it, the coveted and
legendary Onion Knight job. When you get this, the level of the
is what matters. If your is below , don't even equip it.
Any can use it, but if they use it too early, it'll backfire.
For more details, see III.
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III. Stats

*Note, this next section was made by, and is used with permission
and the of the who wrote it.


Level|STR|AGL|VIT|INT|MND

|16| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|17| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|18| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|19| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|20| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|21| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|22| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|23| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|24| 7| 7| 7| 7| 7|
|25| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|26| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|27| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|28| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|29| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|30| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|31| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|32| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|33| 8| 8| 8| 8| 8|
|34| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|35| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|36| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|37| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|38| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|39| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|40| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|41| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|42| 9| 9| 9| 9| 9|
|43| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|44| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|45| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|46| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|47| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|48| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|49| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|50| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|51| 10| 10| 10| 10| 10|
|52| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|53| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|54| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|55| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|56| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|57| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|58| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|59| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|60| 11| 11| 11| 11| 11|
|61| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|62| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|63| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|64| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|65| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|66| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|67| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|68| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|69| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|70| 12| 12| 12| 12| 12|
|71| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|72| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|73| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|74| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|75| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|76| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|77| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|78| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|79| 13| 13| 13| 13| 13|
|80| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|81| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|82| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|83| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|84| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|85| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|86| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|87| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|88| 14| 14| 14| 14| 14|
|89| 15| 15| 15| 15| 15|
|90| 15| 15| 15| 15| 15|
|91| 15| 15| 15| 15| 15|
|92| 15| 15| 15| 15| 15|
|93| 27| 27| 27| 27| 27|
|94| 39| 39| 39| 39| 39|
|95| 51| 51| 51| 51| 51|
|96| 63| 63| 63| 63| 63|
|97| 75| 75| 75| 75| 75|
|98| 87| 87| 87| 87| 87|
|99| 99| 99| 99| 99| 99|

Magic Points:

Level|LV1|LV2|LV3|LV4|LV5|LV6|LV7|LV8

|16| 8| 7| 6| 5| 4| 3| 2| 1|
|17| 9| 8| 7| 6| 5| 4| 3| 1|
|18| 9| 8| 7| 6| 5| 4| 3| 2|
|19| 10| 9| 7| 6| 5| 4| 3| 2|
|20| 10| 9| 8| 7| 5| 4| 3| 2|
|21| 11| 9| 8| 7| 6| 4| 3| 2|
|22| 11|10| 9| 7| 6| 4| 3| 2|
|23| 12|10| 9| 7| 6| 5| 3| 2|
|24| 12|11| 9| 8| 6| 5| 3| 2|
|25| 13|11|10| 8| 6| 5| 3| 2|
|26| 13|12|10| 8| 7| 5| 3| 2|
|27| 14|12|10| 9| 7| 5| 4| 2|
|28| 14|12|11| 9| 7| 5| 4| 2|
|29| 15|13|11| 9| 7| 6| 4| 2|
|30| 15|13|11| 9| 8| 6| 4| 2|
|31| 16|14|12|10| 8| 6| 4| 2|
|32| 16|14|12|10| 8| 6| 4| 2|
|33| 17|15|12|10| 8| 6| 4| 2|
|34| 17|15|13|11| 9| 6| 4| 2|
|35| 18|15|13|11| 9| 7| 4| 2|
|36| 18|16|14|11| 9| 7| 4| 2|
|37| 19|16|14|12| 9| 7| 4| 2|
|38| 19|17|14|12| 9| 7| 5| 2|
|39| 20|17|15|12|10| 7| 5| 2|
|40| 20|17|15|12|10| 7| 5| 2|
|41| 21|18|15|13|10| 7| 5| 2|
|42| 21|18|16|13|10| 8| 5| 2|
|43| 22|19|16|13|11| 8| 5| 2|
|44| 22|19|16|14|11| 8| 5| 2|
|45| 23|20|17|14|11| 8| 5| 2|
|46| 23|20|17|14|11| 8| 5| 2|
|47| 24|21|17|14|12| 8| 5| 2|
|48| 24|21|18|15|12| 9| 6| 2|
|49| 25|21|18|15|12| 9| 6| 2|
|50| 25|22|19|15|12| 9| 6| 2|
|51| 25|22|19|16|12| 9| 6| 3|
|52| 26|23|19|16|13| 9| 6| 3|
|53| 26|23|20|16|13| 9| 6| 3|
|54| 27|24|20|17|13|10| 6| 3|
|55| 27|24|20|17|13|10| 6| 3|
|56| 28|24|21|17|14|10| 6| 3|
|57| 28|25|21|17|14|10| 6| 3|
|58| 29|25|21|18|14|10| 6| 3|
|59| 29|26|22|18|14|10| 7| 3|
|60| 30|26|22|18|15|11| 7| 3|
|61| 30|27|23|19|15|11| 7| 3|
|62| 31|27|23|19|15|11| 7| 3|
|63| 31|27|23|19|15|11| 7| 3|
|64| 32|28|24|19|15|11| 7| 3|
|65| 32|28|24|20|16|11| 7| 3|
|66| 33|29|24|20|16|12| 7| 3|
|67| 33|29|25|20|16|12| 7| 3|
|68| 34|30|25|21|16|12| 7| 3|
|69| 34|30|25|21|17|12| 8| 3|
|70| 35|30|26|21|17|12| 8| 3|
|71| 35|31|26|22|17|12| 8| 3|
|72| 36|31|26|22|17|13| 8| 3|
|73| 36|32|27|22|18|13| 8| 3|
|74| 37|32|27|22|18|13| 8| 3|
|75| 37|33|28|23|18|13| 8| 3|
|76| 38|33|28|23|18|13| 8| 3|
|77| 38|33|28|23|18|13| 8| 3|
|78| 39|34|29|24|19|14| 8| 3|
|79| 39|34|29|24|19|14| 9| 3|
|80| 40|35|29|24|19|14| 9| 3|
|81| 40|35|30|24|19|14| 9| 3|
|82| 41|36|30|25|19|14| 9| 3|
|83| 41|36|30|25|20|14| 9| 3|
|84| 42|36|31|25|20|15| 9| 4|
|85| 42|37|31|26|20|15| 9| 4|
|86| 43|37|31|26|20|15| 9| 4|
|87| 43|38|32|26|21|15| 9| 4|
|88| 44|38|32|26|21|15| 9| 4|
|89| 44|39|33|27|21|15| 9| 4|
|90| 45|39|33|27|21|16|10| 4|
|91| 45|39|33|27|21|16|10| 4|
|92| 46|40|34|28|22|16|10| 4|
|93| 46|40|34|28|22|16|10| 4|
|94| 47|41|34|28|22|16|10| 4|
|95| 47|41|35|29|22|16|10| 4|
|96| 48|42|35|29|23|17|10| 4|
|97| 48|42|35|29|23|17|10| 4|
|98| 49|42|36|29|23|17|10| 4|
|99| 49|43|36|30|23|17|10| 4|

Now, the Onion Knight won't be getting good, or even close to decent,
until the Mid 90's. That's why people tend to use it later on.
Even at a Job Level 1, a Onion Knight is considered god.
Their Magic abilities are as high as they come, being able to use
all sorts of magic.
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IV. Weapons/Armor

This is where it gets . Onion Knights can wield any equipment.
Knife, , Ice Helm, just name it. There's too many for me to list,
so just look at other guides.The only things they can't
equip are the Job-Mastery ones. The Onion Knight has their own mastery
item though, the Onion Blade!

Onion Blade
Weapon Type- Sword
Wielders- Onion Knight
Attack- 150
Bonuses- +5 all Stats
How to Obtain- Get a Onion Knight to Job Level 99, and then wander around
the land, looking for the Master Smith. If your lucky enough to find her,
she'll make you the Onion Blade. Or just get a friend to send you the card,
using , and visit her. I'll explain how to find her, and make her
wander later.

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V. Magic

Onion Knights are like Red Mages. Only they're on steroids. They can use
melee weapons, and magic. Their MP is only that of a Sage, but the ability
to use both Black and White Magic is useful. Sadly, they can not use Summons.
But with 99 in both Mind and Intellect, Bladck Magic can hurt your enemies
enough. So just give em a pool of all 8 LV's of magic and let them go wild!

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VI. Onion Equipment

Now, even though the Onion Knight's can equip every item, except the
Job Mastery ones, stated before, they have their own armor. These are
called the Onion Equipment. They are found by slaying Dragons, found
in the ??? Cave, and Crystal Tower. They are very powerful, and are
dangerous to hunt. Here's the Dragon's stats-

-------------------
Yellow Dragon

Level: 50

HP: 79999
Gil: 12000
EXP: 30000
Weakness: None
Att: 107
Def: 40
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Green Dragon

Level: 60

HP: 89999
Gil: 13330
EXP: 45000
Weakness: None
Att: 129
Def: 45
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Red Dragon

Level: 70

HP: 99999
Gil: 14666
EXP: 60000
Weakness: None
Att: 150
Def: 50

The easiest to hunt, are Yellow Dragons and the hardest are Red Dragons.
All 3 Dragons drop Onion Swords and Shields (shields).
However, each dragon drops a armor, which are rare.

Yellow Dragons- Onion Helm 4.5%
Green Dragons- Onion 4.5%
Red Dragons- Onion Armor 4.5%

All of them have the to drop Onion Swords and Shields,
at these %'.

Onion Swords- 1.5%
Onion Shield- 8.0%

Here are the armor stats, taken from guide.

Name-Onion Helm
Defense-40
Magic -40
Protect-All
Bonus-+5 , +5 Mind
Job-Onion Knights

Name-Onion Armor
Defense-60
Magic -40
Protect-All
Bonus-+5 , +5
Job-Onion Knights

Name-Onion Gauntlets
Defense-50
Magic -25
Protect-All
Bonus-+3 All
Job-Onion Knights

Name-Onion Shield
Defense-30
Magic -30
Protect-All
Bonus-+2 All
Job-Onion Knights

Name-Onion Sword
Attack-156
Effect-None
Bonus-+5 All
Job-Onion Knights

The Onion Blade was typed before, go search for it if you need it's
stats or something else.

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VII. How to Train

Onion Knights are tedious things. They have low stats until level 90+.
This means if you train them from low levels, your HP is going to take
a heavy blow. So the best advice is to use them after your 95+.
Some people tend to use the Black Belt method, with High VIT to
get to 9999 HP.
Let me explain it a bit better. HP gains are determined by VIT.
Melee classes have more Vitality then other classes, meaning they get
Hp every Level up. So Black Belts and Knights gain loads more HP.
But with Onion Knight's low VIT, they suffer low HP , which will
scar you badly during the long run. So be careful, and ONLY use them once
you hit 9999 HP, or your at 95+. Job level doesn't matter,
level does. Once your 95+, and have good HP, go ahead and switch.
Job Level takes of time, because of their low Speed.
But once their speed is up to par, it's a bit easier.
During the 90's, their speed will be godly allowing them to Job Level
at the speed of light. Just do the guard, guard, guard, guard, and kill
with these guys. It's best soloing from what I've heard, but
training them all at once saves time.

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VIII. FAQ

Q: How do I get Onion Knights?!
A: Read the Section on how to get them.

Q: Why won't mail me the letter for help?
A: Maybe you haven't sent AND 7 Mails.

Q: My only allows 1 mail per hour. This is take FOREVER!
A: That's not a question, but just set the clock 1 hour ahead.

Q: Can I host this FAQ on my site?
A: Go ahead, but mail me first, and give credit where due.

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IX. Master Blacksmith

She gives out the Ultima Weapon, as well as the Job Mastery items and
cards for each job. Onion Knights are no exception. But the process of
getting her to appear, much less making you items is hard and tedious.
So to explain it all, go read my guide on them. Shoo.

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X. Strategy

This section tells you, (or gives ideas) on tactics you can use with
these. Being so verastile, they're like Wild Cards.

Super Smash Fantasy Melee - All Front Row

OK- Onion Blade and Onion Sword
OK- Onion Sword and Onion Sword
OK- Ultima Weapon and Ragnorok
OK- Gungir and Excalibur

Being able to equip some strong weapons makes this team melee focused.

Magic Defenders- All Back Row

OK- Onion Shield and Onion Shield- Flare, Haste, Thundaga
OK- Onion Shield and Onion Shield- Flare, Drain, Firaga
OK- Onion Shield and Onion Shield- Flare, Curaja, Blizzaga
OK- Onion Shield and Onion Shield- Flare, Esuna, Arise

This allows maximun defense, with a wide array of magic. Very useful for
boss battles. Inspired by GreenSmith@aol.com

Killer Hornets- All Back Row

OK- Eurytos Bow and Yoichi Arrow
OK- Elven Bow and Medusa Arrow
OK- *Any Bow* and *Elemental Arrow of your choice*
OK- *Any Bow* and Poison Arrow or Sleep Arrow

This was inspired in Art Class, with Hornet shooters in the back row.
During the lecture on the vanishing point and such, hornets began attacking
by the Hornet Hitman, Jack. This team is all bow, allowing defense with
good damage. Not as strong, but fun yet costly. I perfer Poison Arrow,
but sleep can be just as annoying for the opponent.

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XII. Version History

Version 1.0 - Basic FAQ with 10 Sections Total. Allowed only yo GameFAQs.

Version 1.2 - Minor Updates, with grammer and spelling fixed.

Version 1.4 - 11 Sections now.

Version 1.5 - A whopping 13 sections, permitted to numerous sites.
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XII. Legal Issues

This guide was written for the use of GameFAQs.com, and that alone.
Any private sites may use this guide, with my permission. If you do
not oblige to that, at least give credit where do. This guide was written
to help people who want the class of Onion Knight, and to stop
the Message Boards, from flooding with Onion Topics. This is a NON-PROFIT
guide, written because there was too much time on the hands.
DO NOT COPY THIS AND SELL IT FOR PROFIT. THIS IS COPYRIGHTED MATERIAL!

As of Version 1.5, this guide has been submitted to-

GameFAQs
Gamershelp.com
Neoseeker.com

Note that GameFAQs was the original site this guide was posted and made for.
The other sites are using this with none profit gains and only to help others.


Copyright 2006 Patrick Chang

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XIII. Credits

Oh boy, where to begin... there's loads of people to thank, because
I couldn't have written this guide myself. It took the help of loads
of people, and other as well.

Thanks to-

Me, for typing this guide up.
GameFAQs, for hosting it.
Square Enix, for making such a great game.
xXThunderXx, for his guide on Equipment.
GZNzach, for his stats on Onion Knights *Big thanks ^_^*
DeathSnipe777, for the equipment drop rates.
Haesslich, for advice.
Tylerpol12 for edits.
Sanecy for edits.
Numerous other people who submitted tidbits of information.
If you'd like some questions answered, that wasn't mentioned in this
guide, then e-mail me at-

Highlypoke@gmail.com
or
MedevilFlail@hotmail.com

Copyright 2006 Patrick Chang

[Hannya]

The onion knight is essentially the Nedus of FF3. (By the way, thanks for not flaming me, I have realized my idiocy and hope to attone for it. I just don't know much about FF3 because I did not bother with it till now).

[hellbred]

Originally Posted by Starman

Is there the onion knight job in the remade version of FF3 for the DS?

Yep! As david stated above.

In the original Final fantasy III the Onion Knight was already an available job class, where in the remake it is a secret class. The Freelancer takes the place of the original OK, I believe.

[david_pickett_84]

No problem starman, and hellbred you are correct

The orignal FFIII you started as an ONion KNight

The DS Version You start as a Freelancer

[Spec]

Originally Posted by Spec

im trying the "Way of the Onion" as me and some friends are calling it

start out as the OK from the start

they are all ahead of me but....
i have more money/damage

im only 23~24
ONE MORE TO 8 stats across the board!

as it turns out im at lvl 41 with about 1500 hp
so im switching over to black belt for more hp...
i don't think i can make it to 9999hp...

[Perdedor]

With all of the Onion Equips, even an Onion Knight before level 95 is still more formidable than with any other job.

[ベト]

I got both of my characters to level 99 by using the solo training version(HIGHLY RECOMMEND) @ bahamuts place and got them to onion knights. My thoughts: not as impressive as i thought because I was hoping that Luneth(the strong yet less intelligent type) would cast fire/fira to a strong monster and deal 9999 damage. It didn't...it did only 1204 damage. Sometimes I wonder if stats can go over 99 points (invisibly, like the damage limit 9999). Anybody?

[-_Ingus_-]

Onion Knight gets A LOT better from level 93, and it has 99 on ALL stats on level 99 (not job level).

Did any of you have beaten the secret boss (I think it's the Iron Giant or something)?

[metal572]

Originally Posted by ベト

haha, yeah, I actually played the older version, that's why I'm almost done. BTW, If you wanna add me as your friend then PM me.

Anyway, in topic:

I see, so I should probably wait until my character level's 99. But wait, do you mean onion knight class level or Level level?

i dont have a ds but i hope to get 1 sometime this year so i was wondering wat do u mean by older version? does it have diferent stuff in it? and whats a freind code?


and also

Originally Posted by david_pickett_84

No problem starman, and hellbred you are correct

The orignal FFIII you started as an ONion KNight

The DS Version You start as a Freelancer

uve played the original japaneese version?

[david_pickett_84]

Mental572 - first off, the older version would be the japanese version. considering it was on the NES it would be differnt. Do some reading and you would find out that the kept in game intact, and added the story line. a "friend code" is nintendos way of helping people keep track of each other. think of it as a screen name fr you favorite instant messanger.

Now to the questions directed to me, no i have not played the origanal game on the NES, but by reading some FAQs online, and doing some general research thats what i figured out. DS version you start as a freelancer, NES version you start as an Onion KNight, all they did is change the name of the starting job, and made "Onion Knight" a secret job.

got it

[-_Ingus_-]

I guess some people need more explanation...

[david_pickett_84]

thats what we are here for

[woda]

Hi, this is my first post and i'm a french person, so dont insult me please.
I possed ff3 at ds at my house and i finish the game few day ago, there are something I need to know about the onion knight is.

How to got it !
I dont know and I really want that job. I know this is the BEST WE CAN HAVE so I want it.

P.S. If you already say can you write it again for me.

[david_pickett_84]

Originally Posted by woda

Hi, this is my first post and i'm a french person, so dont insult me please.
I possed ff3 at ds at my house and i finish the game few day ago, there are something I need to know about the onion knight is.

How to got it !
I dont know and I really want that job. I know this is the BEST WE CAN HAVE so I want it.

P.S. If you already say can you write it again for me.

bonjour, please read the first page.

[PRL412]

Would someone please help me get the Onion Knights job...please!!!
My friend code is 326521213706

[darkknight54]

i have mastered ninja, black belt, sage and devout how do i get ultima weapons for them.

[PRL412]

In order to get the ultimate armor you need to do a sidequest that requires wi-fi

[d.dzubow]

Just started FFIII a few days back. Trying to get Onion Knight but need friend codes. I've added the ones I found on this forum...please add me. My Friend Code is 103 200 942 395. Thanks!