TFF Fighter's Guild

[LionheartVIII]

Originally Posted by celtic_silver

Let me think....
Aggression?
That post of yours starting with: 'Flame away.'
For starters that can somewhat be seen as flame baiting in a very non-transparent form. And that whole grammar war thing when you yourself have made countless errors. I can almost respect your desire for truth, but when you posted that very long post about grammar war, people not having common sense and all that other crap that is hardly a non aggressive way to ask for proof. Hell you could have PMed Drake instead.

This is quite hypocritical of you. You called my response to Cloud’s correction an act of aggression yet you just did the same thing when you corrected my spelling mistake. You responded to my “aggression” with “aggression”(see further down in the post). I said “flame away” in an attempt to show that I have little care for anyone flames me. It wasn’t an attempt at making people angry.

Also these so called acts of aggression come after I question Draken, so how is this relevant? Me and Cloud’s argument really are pretty irrelevant to how I questioned Draken’s credibility in that first post.

As for my rules:
So yeah, this club is about fighting in it's recreational forms. And I don't want anyone attacking another person as the last bit of that quote said. Attacking a person's reputation or claims is a form of attacking another person last time I checked.

I know for a fact that questioning is not a synonym of attacking. I am pretty sure we don’t have to pull out a thesaurus to check it. Your warping what I said to make it go against these rules in your first post. You can say I attacked him and Bill Clinton, the former president of the United States, can say oral sex is not sex, but that doesn’t mean it’s true. Do you see the similarity?

And I agree with Cloud. He was bloody right to argue with you. As for bolding the 'I', I was emphasising that I made this club, it was made to my ideals. Cloud has every right to pull rank here. He does his best to be constructive and also to keep the ideals of this club true.

“He does his best to be constructive and also to keep the ideals of this club true.” You say that I was aggressive in correcting his grammar, yet it was a response to him trying to make me look silly by correcting my grammar. That contradicts your statement of him keeping the ideals of this club true.

What's more of a joke is the hypocracy shown through your actions. The whole grammar war rebuttal when yours is far from perfect yourself. And that shit about no aggressiveness. I'm no ****ing saint myself, but saying shit like:

“For example someone who is a loser in real life could go on a forum and say he sleeps with 3 hot chicks every night and it will make him feel better, this happens ALL THE TIME. You don’t know Draken, so how do you know he is not one of these people?”

is quite clearly aggressive. Your example there is clearly used to employ negative connotations towards your suspicions about Drake. And that's all they were, suspicions.

I’ll address that statement about me being a hypocrite below. I honestly I never dreamed that this would be considered an aggressive statement. Let me explain: I understand that you haven’t met me in person, so you don’t know what I look like, how old I am, what my personality is like. For all you know, I could be a fat, 11 year old, Asian kid. When I say that am I being aggressive to myself if I am indeed not a fat, 11 year old Asian kid? Obviously it was an example statement meant to make a point, it was that simple and not difficult to comprehend.

Yeah it is redundant. But then it's redundant so I can try to drill my message through. And it seems you've spelt nonsense in a rather nonsensical fashion yourself. See my message stays the same. Yours seems to change a little every time.

Redundancy is making a point over and over again, in the process wasting space. I think the word that you are looking for is pointless. It may have been pointless, but I just wanted to point it out.

My posts change? You went from saying that I can’t question credibility at all to saying that it was the way I questioned his credibility that was wrong.

Time for me to repeat a point that I have made before because you seem to be unable to comprehend it. I can correct the hundreds of grammar errors you have made and you can do the same to me, therefore it is pointless to do so. This isn’t an intellectual forum so we are allowed to use colloquial language, right?

And yes, I CAN see the hypocracy behind this aggressive post on my half, BUT I'm just trying to get my club back on track. I really couldn't care anymore if you have a problem with it. This is my club. You have a problem, just stop posting or make your own club dedicated solely to arguments or whatever you want. Why not a debating club or something, you seem very good at it.

This post shows that you are a mature person, and I respect that, but at the same time you fail to realize that you were wrong in criticizing me and warning me.

Admitting that you are being aggressive toward me makes me wonder why you are arguing with me...

About the comment on debate, when I feel something is wrong I am not going to be silent and let people just walk all over me. I just don’t let it happen.

I'll close by saying I'd prefer you to remain here especially if you wish to say something about your fights, experiences or just something constructive but otherwise, please leave. This club is for physical fights and NOT for debates.

I’ll close with an apology if you felt offended by what I have said. What is written here is what I feel as “right” and I will defend that with my words because words are the only thing available to me on the internet.

[Silver]

@ Paper Pro.

Damn mate, what can I say to that? You remind me of an older me.
I respect how you've maintained your pride as you have.
Mine I learnt to abandon somewhat some time ago.
But let's end this here.
I doubt we'll ever agree on this and hell we'll probably eventually piss each other off.
And I retract that last bit from my previous post.

I reckon the guild needs that type of will.
I still see the questioning as an attack, just as you probably still see it as just questioning, but I think it's time to move on.

I propose a new question for discussion.

What at this point in time would you fight to the end for? Fight until you died if you had to?

I'll post an answer myself sooner or later, but I have a few higher priorities than thinking about things like this currently.

[Draken Benvolaid]

Phew... I'm glad that didn't turn into some big blood shed, even if there are some underling thoughts...

And paper, the only reason just about everyone jumped on you for asking that was because you did so in a little rude way. There wasn't a need for such words, paper, nor was there a need for you(celt) to get so hyped up over it. Kindness can go a long way, in both directions, even online. Besides, that's what my name means, "A Dragon's Benevolence", a stern but understanding kindness.

"A truth beyond the truth is always there, even if it does not always seem so."

But I digress, it's done, it's over with.


What at this point in time would you fight to the end for? Fight until you died if you had to?

Hmmm, that's sorta like my question a few months ago, but a little different.

Life and Absolute Necessary Truth.
Well, you guys read what I fight for, right? It was the link. Basically, I'll stop a person destroying themselves and I'll stop a person destroying others, where I can. It's what I have to atone for...


Other then that, we sorta skipped over a few topics with that tangent. Weighted training equipment, and something about swords.

I bought a Zanbato from Bleach, at the end of August. Heavy and a good training weapon. Sorta two birds with one stone. I picked it up at the Pennsylvania Renaissance Fare. Found something else unusual there, but I'll post it as a new thread.


Edit:Found the Soulcalibur 4 trailer while screwing around in class. Not bad, in fact Sieg looks pretty bad ass.
Youtube find

Edit 2: Found the SC4 Trailer from the Tokyo Game Show which was shown this morning.
Youtube is great, isn't it?

[Silver]

OK I know this is off topic, but I feel it to be necessary.
Here's the deal. My opinions and views have changed greatly over the past week or two due to several things, and I no longer carry that passion I once did for fighting. Don't get me wrong, I'll still fight for a cause I believe, but my active vigilante days are over.

Anyway, I believe that the leader of this club, to hold true to my original vision, must see fighting as a major part of their life. And that no longer applies to me. So I believe a new leader must be chosen. I'll still be a member of course, but I may post a little less frequently. Anyway, as of the bottom of this post I stand down as leader of this club.

My last thing as current leader of this guild is to say how our next leader will be picked. Anyone interested in the position will write a post following this one, and then we will vote for who we want as the new leader. Most votes wins.

After the new leader is selected, he/she will be able to make a new post concerning TFF Fighter's Guild rules/ranks/positions and I will copy/paste a link over my first post.
celtic out.

[Draken Benvolaid]

You sure about this celt? Giving up the leadership position, just like that?

Yea, I did notice a change in you back in June too, but I don't think it should go to that level. This new thing... is different, though... Still you shouldn't stop what you know you need to do.

Maybe take a brake with a temp leader, but you shouldn't give being a leader all up.



You lost something, didn't you...
Something precious that can't be replaced...
Something that even if you never knew who it was or knew them for very long, is gone...

Don't fall into the same dispair that I did... Getting back out, means giving up everything else to do so... even if it is for the better...

Don't become what you hate inorder to fight it..., you'll lose your true self if you do... it may even become lost forever...

[Silver]

Aye, I am giving up the position just like that.
But I have good reason. I now have people who are very important to me who I don't want to let down in anyway. People either not so good at fighting, or who don't like fighting.
I'm at that phase we're I'm trying to make peace with everyone I may have once held conflict with.
Just because I don't want anyone hurt because of me.
Now I fight only to protect what I care about. I'm on the defensive so to speak.
And I get the feeling my fights are gonna be even more infrequent now.
So yes, I'm giving up the position.

Though you know, you'd make a good club leader here, Drake.
Maybe you should go for it.

[LionheartVIII]

Sup, it has been a little while since I have been on (college work). But I can tell you I will be more active in the future.

Glad we could come to a mutual agreement Celtic. I think it is pretty respectable of you to change for the people you care about, good for you. Just make sure you still kick some ass when needed lol.

I know this is somewhat unrelated but recently I have had thoughts of joining the marines... It's something I have to think long and hard about, I just can't decide. I have just lost motivation for my future and I think the marines might be able to rekindle that motivation. It's a toughy.

[Draken Benvolaid]

You chose to become a shield to others and wield your strength as the shield.
You have a reason to fight, to fight with a goal.

"Never lose sight of what you hold dear"


Here's a little tip I learned from being a defender myself:
"If you're going to protect someone, then protect them. Don't worry about what will happen if you fail, just make sure you don't fail. Worrying will make you hesitate and doubt your actions, making failure an option."

I'm glad you found someone to protect, celt.

Damn out of time...

[Draken Benvolaid]

I don't mean to post twice before someone else has posted, but I have to since Celt just handed over the reigns for the club to me.

For the most part the rules are the same except for an admittance question that new members must answer to join. Current members don't need to answer it if they don't want to.


Old Rules that are still in place:

Club Name: TFF Fighter's Guild

This is a club dedicated to telling others what happened during real life fights, either those people participated in or those they watched. And it's not limited to dodgy fights neither, sports such as boxing, tai kwon do and stuff all count as well.

Discussions about sporting fights could be discussed, as well as on less than peaceful tips.

But I'd like it to be dedicated to recreational fighting or funny fighting stories only. None of that bullying crud.

Cursing is acceptable (though don't just swear for the sake of it), attacking others is not acceptable for any reason.
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Members List

General of the Army: Draken Benvolaid
General: celtic_silver
Lieutenant General: cloudy
Major General: Diddy
Brigadier General: BenRampage
Colonel: foreverfaded
Lieutenant Colonel: Voxen16
Major: Paper Pro
Captain: Raines
First Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
Contributor: Rasler

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Note by Fuji: Double posting isn't allowed here. Use the edit button for future reference, thank you.


New Rule:
Please answer the following question(s) to join:

Why do you fight?
For what reason do you fight?
What do you get out of fighting?


For my answer, Read my Sig. It explains much.
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Other then that, I have a question for everyone

What was your most terrible moment while fighting? Like a terrible loss or failure while fighting, or getting caught for fighting, or a very bad ass whoopin.

Come on we all had one at some point in time.


I'll post mine in 2 days from this post.

[BenRampage]

Hey guys whats going on. Congrats Draken on the new leadership role. Celtic was a good leader, but thats alright. So i got an interesting story. I was at a friends party and one of my buddies girlfriends was there, and we have liked each other for a while and shes not happy with her boyfriend. So we were sitting there talking and the boyfriend comes up to me and we start talkiing and i get up and get something to drink.

Apparnetly while i was getting a drink She broke up with him and said she wanted to be with me. So he comes up to me in a fit and he starts yelling at me for the reason they broke up and he decided to throw me a right hook. So i used a little art known as Krav Maga. I used the 360 defense and i blocked his right away with my left and i gave him a swift elbow to the jaw. He hit the floor pretty hard. It was a good one. I got the girl though so its all good.

[Silver]

Aye, congratulations to the new Fighter's Guild leader.
Long live Drake!

Paper Pro, I say, GO FOR IT! Maintaining passion with where you go is always a good thing...

What was your most terrible moment while fighting? Like a terrible loss or failure while fighting, or getting caught for fighting, or a very bad ass whoopin.

I'm not too sure as I don't lose very often. That said I'm guessing it involved to much booze, a fellow drunk and a heavy blunt object of some sort connecting with my head. I've had a few odd times waking up...

[Draken Benvolaid]

In reply to Paper's question about joining the marines, I'd say, it's up to you, but weigh the results.

On one hand, you will learn to fight a lot better then most people, serve our country, travel the world, and get enough fighting to your heart's content.

On the other, you'll always be deployed somewhere, people will shoot at you constantly, you'll see death up close like I do, and bullets hurt... a lot.

"It's your decision, not ours. We can't decide your life, just help you along the way."



Not bad, Ben. But be careful, former friends make even worse enemies…. He may come back at you, again. It’s best not to start fights, just end them so the liability won’t be on you. lol



The worst day, as per fighting, would be... when I couldn't protect someone, and they died. It's sort of another scenario.


Last year, around this time, I was with my brother in the city, helping him with something, when I dropped a can of soda and it rolled down an alley. I ran over to pick it up, when I heard someone moan loudly and then whimper.

I came around the corner to see what was going on... and I came across a girl being raped... she was younger then me, a few years or so... A knife, one of those butterfly ones, was sticking out of her neck, and the bastard was still screwing her... My anger reached it's peak at that moment, something that it rarely does, and I mean rarely, as once a year or so... but I couldn’t control myself

I ran down the alleyway, and kicked off the side wall, throwing a diving punch at him, hooking him in the jaw. I hit him with enough force to topple him over, but he got up quickly.

He came back at me with a mid-kick… I was so pissed, I caught it mid air, and yanked him hard enough that I threw him into the wall I kicked off of. I pulled him up by the throat throwing him back into a adjacent trash can, knocking him over yet again…

I walked up to him, and immediately broke three of his bones, 2 places in his left arm and his left leg…, with one hammered hit each…

A thought ran through my mind, “why should he live, when he didn’t let her. Why?”… Yet I did… I let the bastard continue on living… without a second thought.

I walked up to the girl, and knelt beside her, apologizing… I wasn’t able to do anything to save her… All I could do was comfort her as she died… I felt so powerless… Nothing I did…, nothing I could do would have changed the outcome except getting there sooner…, but without hearing her, I wouldn’t have known...

I held her hand as she died… she squeezed it tightly, crying… and then…… her life faded away…

I stood up, looking back at what had transpired, hating not the murder, but myself. Hating him won’t bring her back…, hating anyone else won’t bring any of them back… It wouldn’t have solved anything but bring more sorrow…

There was a cell phone nearby, probably hers. I dialed the police… then left… there was nothing more I could do…