Wii or PS3??? - Page 2

ash2k · 04-09-2007, 10:06 AM

Get a PS3 they are amazing I own one and I love it (but also get a gamecube and twlight princess my favourite game of the year so far) I mean the graphics on Motorstorm are amazing and this was a launch game just think how good the games are gonna get and I don't really care about all this talk of Sony losing its exclusives nothing has been confirmed talk but no action

The PS3 isn't just a gaming machine it does other stuff like its a wireless internet (the 360 does not have this option) also I am told you have to pay for the net on the 360 you don not on the PS3

I am sick of people telling me that sony screw people over with this backward compatable thing but look at the 360 I mean they have made people shell all that money for it and now there gonna bring out an advanced better version of it wheres the loyality there??????

Also the PS3 broke sales records here in Europe so I say get a PS3 yeah the wii graphics will get better but so will the PS3s and just wait till those games start coming out

Final Fanatic · 04-09-2007, 11:30 AM

Yes dude, your right, but look, PS3 is a great console/media system, with great graphics and sound quality, but the price is too high for a console and what will I do with my 128 PSX/PS2 games?
I don't pretend to make a colection of sony's consoles.

LonePaladin · 04-09-2007, 11:53 AM

Sony promised perfect backwards compatibility, they even put down Microsoft for not having it. They didn't deliver and I think thats what most people are upset about. They did patch the BC in the US but from my understanding PS1 games still look even worse then what they originally did, and lets not even touch how they screwed the Europeans with BC. Point is, if I'm going to pay an outrageous price of $600 for a system, I'm going to expect nothing but the best from it.

Sir Kenneth · 04-09-2007, 12:19 PM

I have my doubts about how much better the graphics of the Wii will actually get. Surely the proper Wii dev kit will mean better looking games, but that doesn't change the fact that it is certainly a console with its limitations.

As for the PS3 being more than just a gaming system, yes that is true. I very much doubt that the average gamer has the necessary hardware at home to really put all those functions to use.

Both systems are decent, but none of them are perfect.

Final Fanatic · 04-09-2007, 12:35 PM

For me, the only problems of the ps3 are those, aside from that, I think it's a great system, I've always been a fan of sony's consoles, even before I got into FF.

Crazy Chocobo · 04-09-2007, 07:01 PM

At first I wanted a Playstation 3 because the graphics look awesome and it just looks like a great system but after hearing about its faults and limitations, I decided that I don't really care for them as much. I haven't played one for myself yet so I can't totally judge on how good it is. I have played a Nintendo Wii before and thought it was AWESOME! I would really love to have one of those myself because it can be fun for everybody. They are also cheaper, a lot cheaper actually so it would certainly be a great console to get.

It depends on what you like though. People who want excellent graphics and lots of features will probably prefer the PS3. The Wii may not have the best graphics ever but it is so much fun.

postalblowfish7 · 04-10-2007, 10:51 AM

I don't think the question is, "Should I get a Wii or a PS3?" Rather it's "When will I be able to afford a Wii and a PS3?" They're like apples and oranges really. You need a Wii for Super Mario Galaxy, The Legend of Zelda, Wario Ware, the Virtual Console, etc. etc. It's completely on its own, running software you simply cannot get on other systems due to its unique control setup. While the Wii titles are great and incredible and amazing and fun as fuck - eventually you're going to need either a PS3 or an XBOX360 to gain access to the "rest" of the videogame universe. Having a GameCube as your sole system would be pushing it in the last gen, but at least you got cross-platform stuff every now and then. With the Wii's controller and limited graphical capabilities, developers are no longer able to just pump out a simple port to the Wii, thought must go into it.

We've already seen some instances where 3rd party developers have come through to create a very Wii-like experience with a port of a game from another system. Take The Godfather Backhand Edition for example. I was extremely skeptical about how well the GTA-cloan would translate to the Wii. Then, a few hours into actually playing it, I realized that I was playing a GTA clone... on my Wii! Using the Wii remote i was strangling people, swinging baseball bats, aiming and shooting tommy guns, smashing people's heads onto grave stones - EA really took the time to make it an interactive Wii experience (even if the graphics are very PS2-esque).

So yes, it can and does work from time to time - but the Wii will never see Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy (core series at least), White Knight Story, Lost Odyssey etc. etc. It just can't handle it graphically, and those games are all designed with the archaic two hands gripping one controller design. AND THAT'S FINE. The Wii is there for what it's there for - and reaching millions of people who pre-Wii considered video games to be something they'd never be into, and Sony and Microsoft can push their computers-masquerading-as-game-boxes on us for the more graphically advanced games.

So yes, I think the PS3 is still a good buy for those 'other' games - mostly because i can't stand Microsoft, their shitty product design, and their complete and total lack of understanding when it comes to making something cool. However, the Wii is a whole new breed of video game system. As the last-gen companies roll out the same ol predictable advancements and predictable games with slicker graphics, isn't it refreshing to swing around the Wii remote like a nutjob as your friends roll on the floor laughing?

relm · 04-10-2007, 11:36 AM

Hmm I don't think it's safe to say that the wii cannot
handle games like FF or MGS. From the games out so
far, I don't think we know the Wii's full potential. Games
like Zelda out for the wii already, could have been rushed
and not made to fit the full potential of the Wii.

While the PS3 has made it blatantly clear that they have
graphics power with their blue ray, Nintendo has focused
their boasting on the innovative gameplay of their games
with the wiimote. However, they also have a normal
2-handed game pad. Graphicswise, Nintendo may still have
much in store, to prove.

I believe the Wii is the more popular system of the two
(ps3 & wii) by far. If this trend continues, square and
other software parties may push to have their games on
the wii. Because there are more Wii systems out, more
people will buy titles for the wii. Catch the logic? Hopefully
the software parties do.

Do I sound pro Wii? Cuz I am. And I like being straightforward.
haha. I can't wait for SSB:Brawl.

postalblowfish7 · 04-10-2007, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by relm

Hmm I don't think it's safe to say that the wii cannot
handle games like FF or MGS. From the games out so
far, I don't think we know the Wii's full potential. Games
like Zelda out for the wii already, could have been rushed
and not made to fit the full potential of the Wii.

While the PS3 has made it blatantly clear that they have
graphics power with their blue ray, Nintendo has focused
their boasting on the innovative gameplay of their games
with the wiimote. However, they also have a normal
2-handed game pad. Graphicswise, Nintendo may still have
much in store, to prove.

I believe the Wii is the more popular system of the two
(ps3 & wii) by far. If this trend continues, square and
other software parties may push to have their games on
the wii. Because there are more Wii systems out, more
people will buy titles for the wii. Catch the logic? Hopefully
the software parties do.

Do I sound pro Wii? Cuz I am. And I like being straightforward.
haha. I can't wait for SSB:Brawl.

I also consider myself extremely pro-Wii, but I can't pretend like there isn't a major graphical gap between it and the PS3. Just look at Call of Duty 3 on the Wii and the PS3. It's like being used to running FFXI on your computer, then booting it up on a PS2 - there's a world of difference. Yes, I think the Wii is definitely the 'better' of the two system. Frankly I'm sick to death of never-ending first person shooters with asinine 'puzzles' and retarded key collecting, and I'm sick to death of the endless spewing of western developers trying to appeal to the 'xbox in trailerpark' and 'madden box' crowd by releasing ugly games in ugly boxes for ugly people (games like this, this, and especially this).

So yeah, go Wii! If i had a PS3 the only thing i would be playing on it right now if FFXI anyways lol - although i'll be the first to admit how nice that would be...

LonePaladin · 04-10-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by postalblowfish7

So yes, it can and does work from time to time - but the Wii will never see Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy (core series at least), White Knight Story, Lost Odyssey etc. etc. It just can't handle it graphically, and those games are all designed with the archaic two hands gripping one controller design. AND THAT'S FINE. The Wii is there for what it's there for - and reaching millions of people who pre-Wii considered video games to be something they'd never be into, and Sony and Microsoft can push their computers-masquerading-as-game-boxes on us for the more graphically advanced games.

Actually this is why the Wii offers a Classic Controller as well as support for Game Cube controllers. Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn from my understanding only supports the Classic Controller, and Smash Brothers Brawl will support the classic controller as well as Game Cube controllers.

And as for graphics, I think DS, PS1, PS2, all weaker systems (compared to the Wii) handled 3D FFs just fine. While FFXIII probably won't come out for it since it was designed for PS3 and it would be way too hard to port too Wii, there is a possibility that future FFs will appear on Wii if it continues in sales the way it currently is. I mean it won't ever match 360/PS3 visual wise, Wii can still make nice looking graphics(and yes I consider the FF games on PS2 to look nice and Wii is about 3 times as powerful as PS2). I mean as I said earlier, if Square Enix's main concern was making the best looking games, they would have jumped to Xbox last generation instead of sticking with PS2. But they don't make games for the most powerful system; they make games for the best selling system.

Which is why we're seeing Dragon Quest IX and Final Fantasy XII RW(and why we saw Final Fantasy III) on DS, a handheld that only has a fraction of the power a PSP does. They aren't putting those games on DS to look pretty they are putting them on DS because the DS has the most units sold thus they can sell more games. But look at the graphics of the games themselves, they look fantastic for the system, and that’s what Square Enix has always done, make the best looking games for the best selling hardware.(ie best looking for the hardwear they are making it on)

Sir Kenneth · 04-10-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by postalblowfish7

So yes, it can and does work from time to time - but the Wii will never see Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy (core series at least), White Knight Story, Lost Odyssey etc. etc. It just can't handle it graphically, and those games are all designed with the archaic two hands gripping one controller design. AND THAT'S FINE. The Wii is there for what it's there for - and reaching millions of people who pre-Wii considered video games to be something they'd never be into, and Sony and Microsoft can push their computers-masquerading-as-game-boxes on us for the more graphically advanced games.

So yes, I think the PS3 is still a good buy for those 'other' games - mostly because i can't stand Microsoft, their shitty product design, and their complete and total lack of understanding when it comes to making something cool. However, the Wii is a whole new breed of video game system. As the last-gen companies roll out the same ol predictable advancements and predictable games with slicker graphics, isn't it refreshing to swing around the Wii remote like a nutjob as your friends roll on the floor laughing?

I think you are being a bit unfair towards Sony here. Sony has reached out to groups who wouldn't normally be into video games with funny initiatives such as Singstars and Eyetoy. Different from the Wii, but still with a broad appeal. Sony has also been good at putting out cool and different games such as Ico, Shadow Of The Colossus, and Dark Chronicle (Dark Cloud 2).

As for predictable games Super Mario, Super Smash Bros, Zelda, Pokemon, and Metroid Prime are hardly new or innovative ideas. Wii-mote or not.
Not that I think Sony or Microsoft are any better. One generation of Halo and DMC was more than plenty for me hehe.

Darth Cidious · 04-10-2007, 07:05 PM

The problem that the Wii has had so far graphically, if it can even be called a problem, is that only a couple of the games released for it so far have actually been developed from the ground up for the Wii. Even Twilight Princess and Super Paper Mario were first designed for the GCN and it shows. Even though not nearly as strong as the PS3 or 360 the Wii is no slouch and boast the capabilities to have next Gen graphics its just up to the Big N and third parties to release some games, developed specifically for the Wii, that takes real advantage of what it can do.
And the fact that the Wii has nearly caught up with the 360 that has had about a years head start and its left the PS3 in its dust has third party developers working on games that will do so right now.
All consoles go through a rough first year and this is no exception. This time next year Wii games will look good. 360 games will continue to look great and the PS3 will be putting some stuff out that will make them both look ugly.

The only real concern I have about the PS3 is if third party developers will give up on it like they gave up on the GCN-which, by the way, was the system with the best specs and most power last time around--and only port games over to it after they have been made for the 360. If they bother.

Crazy Chocobo · 04-10-2007, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by postalblowfish7

I don't think the question is, "Should I get a Wii or a PS3?" Rather it's "When will I be able to afford a Wii and a PS3?"

That is so true. They are just both too expensive. I know the Wii is a lot cheaper but it's still quite expensive for most people. The PS3 is at an insane price in my opinion and probably wouldn't be worth all of that money. I would much prefer a Nintendo Wii for now because I know that I'm going to have a lot of fun playing it. It may be cheaper but it doesn't lack in FUN! The graphics may not be perfect either but it still looks great to me. Being able to run around and waving your arms around like an idiot with the remote is fun and you can be involved in the game more than on the PS3 or other systems. You feel like you're actually in that game.

Silver · 04-10-2007, 11:53 PM

You should try the Wii when you and all your mates have had a little to much XXXX gold, VB or Toohey's. That's when the real fun begins. Especially on that game that comes with the Wii, Wii Sports I think, and Super Monkey Ball. There's never been this fun a system since the Ninty 64 was in it's prime. And the real beauty is that there's more sweet games to come to come. And if you all really want to look stupid, get the steering wheel shell thing that can clip onto the wiimote and turn any racing game into a special lamefest.
It's certainly fun at any rate....