Shinobi Masters

[Itachi Uchiha]

Wow, seeing I have been active for two days (oh which i apologize for), you seem to have had a lengthy discussion. I'd just like to pick out a few things before I get down to my original post.

Originally Posted by Darkwolf

Just Itachi, make a banner with some AT LEAST Naruto, Sasuke, and Sakura, Since that is what the whole show is about.

My brother (damn it, I'm getting too used to referring to you as that) I have no skill in the art of banner making of which many of you have. Hell, I even got my mate to make me a banner once for a piece of coursework I'm that hopeless. Also with what Xeim said: Not all banners have to include the main charactrers all the time. People might not like Sakura or Sasuke as much which would put them off certain banners. Its all about using a multitude of different characters. Please don't take offence from this though.

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

If you all recall, Rock Lee used this technique against Mr. Sandman Gaara in the Chuunin Exams. After opening the 3rd Gate, there is so much blood flowing through you, your whole skin turns red. You can move at great speeds, deal massive damage, and have a nearly unlimited amount of chakra. We all know what happens right? After using the move, you become quite fatigued to the point where you may not even stand, much like Rock Lee.

For those people who have seen Shippudem, we all see that Maito Gai can release 6 Gates without putting much damage to him. The reason? Either, he's older, more experienced, and even the fact he taught Rock Lee how to use the technique. Upon close speculation, Kakashi knew how to use 1 of 8 gates.

If you don't agree with me, again for Shippuden watchers, recall Kakashi using the Dancing Leaf Shadow on Naruto's Shadow Clones, then turining upside-down using Primary Lotus. The Primary Lotus Technique only takes 1 Chakra Gate to open, but still puts a great strain on Lee, though I doubt Kakashi was unphased by that technique.

Well considering what you have said, I do agree that the eight Chakra gates have a great strain on the body but you have to take into mind that Maito Gai and Kakashi are older and more experienced (as you have pointed out). It could be the more the gates are used, the less of an after effect it has on the body. I say this because that (As again you have pointed out), both Kakashi and Gai open the gates and are hardly effected. In a way, this is evidense to support this.

Originally Posted by Xeim

The seven main chakra point are: crown (sahasrāra), Third Eye (ājñā), Throat (viśuddha), Heart/Lung (anāhata), Solar plexus (manipūra), sacrum (svādhisthāna), and root (ūlādhāra).

Well after reading all of this, this section is what I wanted to point out. A couple of months ago, I used to do Tai Chi. This seven points of which you have mentioned are important in the focus of the art and of chi energy. My memory is a bit fuzz (I can't remember presice information) but it was talked about a lot by the instructer. So yeah, it was called chi when I did it.

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Now back to what I wanted to say. Unless you haven't noticed, there are three Kages within this club now. These being Me (Kazekage), Darkwolf (Hokage) and Xeim (Mizukage). Now, I know this isn't what I said in my last post about this but I shall explain. My reason for appointing Dw is because he made this place and so I felt he deserved a kage title. I think you can see where I am coming from with this. Now as for Xeim, she was the one I appointed due to her skill and knowledge. Now, I'm not saying your all bad but it is what descision I have made. I don't not mind questions if you wish to ask them.

Now as for the RP, all information about that is in my latest post in the OCC. But to those who can't be bothered reading it, I'll make it brief here. The RP itself will be started two days from now so I ask you all to get ready for it. That is all for now.

[Mr. Sandman]

To regards of what you said Itachi, I'm impressed. Thinking about others and putting time to thinking on what to write from other people's prospectives. The chakra idea so far is actually pretty interesting, considering how I skipped some parts.

Anyways, I've thought up of something, though needless to say, I'm not sure how to put it. We might have talked about this before, but the Akatsuki are all S-Class criminals from different villages. I will bring up 2 of 9 Akatasuki's (not including Orochimaru) to the stage. For my first bout: it is the one and only....

Hidan! Now we all know Hidan is pretty much immortal but one of his more distinguishable features is his headband. Look closely to it, and you shall see that he comes from an unkown village. His headband looks like what? ||| Like that? Well, the manga or episodes still hasn't covered from where he originated or where he got his traits, or if that is even a Kekkei Genkai. Hidan works well with his partner, Kakuzu, who I see is a very short-tempered but powerful shinobi.

Though recently being killed by the helps of Shikamaru, Naruto, and Kakashi, Hidan in combination with Kakuzu make for a powerful duo. It is claimed that Kakuzu has killed most of his partners in his "outbursts" of rage so since Hidan is immortal, this problem is no longer in effect. However, Hidan's techniques are like rituals which take up a fair amount of time, much to Kakuzu's impatience. If you read manga, we see that Asuma has been killed by Hidan's "suicide" technique.

Anyways, beyond that I have come to the speculation of... Hidan is an "undead!!!" Okay well, that was not my idea but when he does his rituals, it looks like he turns into a "grim reaper" and his headband looks like 3 sticks going in a vertical motion. If you have any theories on what village that maybe, please do tell. To me it looks like a "cage" but anywho next member.


Next member is non other than the split personality man(s) himself...

Zetsu! The venus flytrap, yin-yang, and dual-personality cannibal S-Rank criminal he is right? Well, we haven't seen much of Zetsu's powers but his abilites and appearnces are far from normal. Who's ever heard of a person with a venus flytrap thing that cover's the sides of their head, has 2 different skin tones of black and white with different eye shape and color of each side, natural green hair, different voices for each half, can blend in with natural surroundings, and even a CANNIBAL!?!?!?

Watching Shippuden ep. 126 where Zetsu had to "get rid" of the corpses was quite nasty. Bent down to the dead bodies and ate them! *shudders* Another ep. when he was sent by AL to track where Naruto and Lee's group are at. Zetsu's skin color and everything looked just like the tree he was portruding out of or standing on. What also gets me confused is his "good boy" Tobi. For those again, who read manga, Tobi is the replacement Akatsuki member for Sasori. It looks as if he has a swirling mask on the other side of his face.

To me, Tobi looks like Obito Uchiha. Looks nearly identical and that swirl could be the other side of his face. Though unexplained, "Tobi" looks nearly identical to "Obito" without the extra "o" in the end. Anyways, Obito looks harmless? But to be an Akatsuki member you have to be an S-Rank criminal which means Tobi has to be powerful in a way.

Other than that, back ot the Zetsu topic, I am eager to see what abilities and jutsus Zetsu contains in him. The whole, split voice and cannibal thing, really freaks me out though. ^^;; Alright, this is all I have to say for now.

~Sasu the Sandman~

[Itachi Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Mr Sandman

Anyways, I've thought up of something, though needless to say, I'm not sure how to put it. We might have talked about this before, but the Akatsuki are all S-Class criminals from different villages. I will bring up 2 of 9 Akatasuki's (not including Orochimaru) to the stage.

Well the discussion on Akatsuki is a rather large one. There are many areas to look at within the organizationa nd we have only looked at its overall goal concerning the tailed demons so far. So what I'm basicly trying to say is that all topics are welcome in here as we probaly wouldn't have discussed them in the past.

Hidan! Now we all know Hidan is pretty much immortal but one of his more distinguishable features is his headband. Look closely to it, and you shall see that he comes from an unkown village. His headband looks like what? ||| Like that? Well, the manga or episodes still hasn't covered from where he originated or where he got his traits, or if that is even a Kekkei Genkai.

Well to cover what you have said so far, Hidan's headband/forhead protector looks like the rain ninjas once. If you remember, it consisted of an number of
straight lines. I think it was about four lines for a rain ninja but he onlys has 3 on his. So you might be right about a different village that has not been brought up yet.

Anyways, beyond that I have come to the speculation of... Hidan is an "undead!!!" Okay well, that was not my idea but when he does his rituals, it looks like he turns into a "grim reaper" and his headband looks like 3 sticks going in a vertical motion. If you have any theories on what village that maybe, please do tell. To me it looks like a "cage" but anywho next member.

Well seeing he is immortal, it is possible that he is undead. Hence the reason he can't die because he's already dead. If this is true, then we can safely assume that his immortality isn't because of a Kekkai Genkai then. Also you have mentioned his rituals were his apperance becomes like that of the grim reaper. This (if he is an undead) could be his 'true form' if you get where I'm coming from with this.

Zetsu! The venus flytrap, yin-yang, and dual-personality cannibal S-Rank criminal he is right? Well, we haven't seen much of Zetsu's powers but his abilites and appearnces are far from normal. Who's ever heard of a person with a venus flytrap thing that cover's the sides of their head, has 2 different skin tones of black and white with different eye shape and color of each side, natural green hair, different voices for each half, can blend in with natural surroundings, and even a CANNIBAL!?!?!?

I hate it when people are revealed but your given hardly any background on them (much like this guy). His traits of which you have pointed out are very weird. There is one thing we do know though. He is from the hidden grass village (as pointed out on his forehead protector). Other than that, we only know of his traits. Still it was likely to have at least one cannibal within an organization like that. All of them are weird in a way and are all evil. Cannibalisim is looked down upon. Same with killing almost all your clan or stealing peoples hearts and keeping five within you. Yes all weird (and wonderful) traits within Akatsuki. But I'm going off track. Now I'll stop quoting Mr. Sandman and get back to what I'm here for yet again.

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The RP thread itself is now open and so are questions concerning the storyline if you wish to ask them. If you have read my first post, you will have seen I have referred to my past through a dream although other ideas are welcome. So yeah, I have used your idea of bringing up my charactors past. Anyway with the RP open, I hope we can get into the swing of things as soon as possible. Once the whole introductions part is over and were all together, then I'll bring in what this whole war thing is about. You can asked about it and I will tell you otherwise you can leave it as a surprise. Either way, I don't mind as long as your all ok with it.

[Xeim]

Hm....just a weird thought...how the heck does someone like Zetsu get born into the world? Did a human mate with a plant or something? >.< *is having bad thoughts*

Anyways...more Akatsuki stuff huh? Well, I have something to bring up I suppose. I was discussing this with a couple people I know a few days back.

Itachi. I belive that there's more to his personality and motives than meets the eye. Someone I know believes he's just as shallow as he's made out to be.

I don't exactly have any hard proof that h's deeper than he seems, but if you look really closely at his actions and reactions to things, you get the impression that he's "masking" something, keeping something from being seen. Now, I'm not suggesting he's a big softie...that'd be weird, but I'm just saying...I think there's more to that bloody night in Konoha then we see. We see the whole thing from Sasuke's point of view, so of course it's going to spell out cold-blooded-murderer-without-a-heart. Now, I'd love it if that scene was shown from Itachi's point of view. What was going through his head when he killed them? How did he feel when he said all that to Sasuke?

I don't believe he menat it when he said he "played the big brother." I think he actually loves Sasuke, but doesn't want that-- most likely his only weakness-- to show.

I don't believe a lot of what he says is true. Perhaps I'm overanalyzing again (like the barrel scene...but we won't go into that...) and perhaps I'm not. What does everyone else think?

Itachi- shallow or not?

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I'm loving the RP. Kazekage-sama, your post was amazing. I'm really looking forward to more posts, and I hope it gets off to a good start. ^_^


--Xeim--

[Itachi Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Xeim

Hm....just a weird thought...how the heck does someone like Zetsu get born into the world? Did a human mate with a plant or something? >.< *is having bad thoughts*

I don't know whether to laugh or poke the screen for the sheer hell of it. Oh what the hell, I'll do both *Pokes screen while laughing* Much better. Anyway, its an interesting question. They'll have to have a filler on him sometime.

I don't exactly have any hard proof that h's deeper than he seems, but if you look really closely at his actions and reactions to things, you get the impression that he's "masking" something, keeping something from being seen. Now, I'm not suggesting he's a big softie...that'd be weird, but I'm just saying...I think there's more to that bloody night in Konoha then we see. We see the whole thing from Sasuke's point of view, so of course it's going to spell out cold-blooded-murderer-without-a-heart. Now, I'd love it if that scene was shown from Itachi's point of view. What was going through his head when he killed them? How did he feel when he said all that to Sasuke?

I'd have to disagree with you on this one with my main reason being I just don't see it. Yes Itachi killed off all his clan and let Sasuke alive but if you remember what he said, he killed them to test his power. Now that motive (if true) seems like someone who is power hungery. He killed his best friend to achieve this power. Now from where I see it, he killed off his clan for two reason. The one I said before and to provoke Sasuke into getting the same power as himself. Being so power hungery as he is, he probaly wants to test the Mangekyou Sharingan against someone else who can use it. And killing his clan would ensure that Sasuke would do anything to opptain power as well. It seems quite well thought out to me.

So yeah, I just wrote a paragraph on my favorite character explaining his motives (God, i need a life )

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So the RP seems to be getting started with people moving onto their second posts. So far, I'm impressed by the RP skills of all the club members. Now all we need is for our only non-member of the RP to post and we would have all started. So yeah, keep up the good work.

[Mr. Sandman]

Alright, sorry to not stay on topic but I just came up with one of the best leads on who the Akatsuki Leader is. It's not one of those where I say, "It's Yondaime I tell you! Yondaime is the AL because he can't die is the 4th Hokage!" Bullshit posts like that just get on my nerves but this one makes so much more sense!

Okay... I think the Akatasuki Leader is... the 3rd Kazekage. I know what you are all thinking, "What is this guy rambling about? The 3rd Kazekage is dead! lol, what a n00b." Well, no, I've just seen a Naruto Shippuden Episode which talks about Gaara and the other Kazekages. If you listen to the Sand Counselor carefully, you will here details of the 3rd Kazekage.

Listen. I thought, the Akatsuki Leader needs to be powerful enough to be stronger and higher in command than Itachi. Yondaime is dead so that is out of the question. For those who have seen the cover page of the Shippuden Manga, you can see the AL has auburn spiky hair. Now, for evidence:

"The 3rd Kazekage was the greatest shinobi of our time." The greatest shinobi in their time. I know, I know there are other great ninja, but just keep listening... "They said the 3rd Kazekage left on a mission and never returned." You'll think, well duh, he died of course! No, he didn't. "He never came back but his body or his corpse was never found. He disappeared and that was the last of him." You see that!? He disappeared but they did not find a corpse!

This leads to my conclusion that the Akatsuki maybe the 3rd Kazekage. If you look at the statue of the 3rd Kazekage's hair as a statue as well as the hair of the Akatsuki Leader, you'll find that they are pretty much exactly the same! Think logically on everything explained on the above ^ and everything in the Shippuden Episode.

For GOD's SAKE, it is NOT Yondaime!!! I mean think it straight people! *sighs* Well anywyas, I hope you liked my theory and as for the RP, it's going great! The members are posting fast and I think this will be quite the outcome of events. I am looking forward to continue, just as soon as a few people log in so I may discuss it with. Other than that, the posts are going great. Nice quality and long, good posts. ^^;;

~Atticus~ (Akatsuki Leader Theory Best Lead!!!)

[Itachi Uchiha]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

Alright, sorry to not stay on topic but I just came up with one of the best leads on who the Akatsuki Leader is. It's not one of those where I say, "It's Yondaime I tell you! Yondaime is the AL because he can't die is the 4th Hokage!" Bullshit posts like that just get on my nerves but this one makes so much more sense!

Ok, I agree with you on that. We all know that Yondaime is dead so it rules him out as the Akatsuki leader. The only thing we need to include Yondaime in now is whether or not he is the father of Naruto. Although there is no evidense linking this I like to think they are related due to there looks being so familiar if you can see where I'm coming from. Anyway, thats going off topic.

Okay... I think the Akatasuki Leader is... the 3rd Kazekage. I know what you are all thinking, "What is this guy rambling about? The 3rd Kazekage is dead! lol, what a n00b." Well, no, I've just seen a Naruto Shippuden Episode which talks about Gaara and the other Kazekages. If you listen to the Sand Counselor carefully, you will here details of the 3rd Kazekage.

Listen. I thought, the Akatsuki Leader needs to be powerful enough to be stronger and higher in command than Itachi. Yondaime is dead so that is out of the question. For those who have seen the cover page of the Shippuden Manga, you can see the AL has auburn spiky hair. Now, for evidence:

"The 3rd Kazekage was the greatest shinobi of our time." The greatest shinobi in their time. I know, I know there are other great ninja, but just keep listening... "They said the 3rd Kazekage left on a mission and never returned." You'll think, well duh, he died of course! No, he didn't. "He never came back but his body or his corpse was never found. He disappeared and that was the last of him." You see that!? He disappeared but they did not find a corpse!

This leads to my conclusion that the Akatsuki maybe the 3rd Kazekage. If you look at the statue of the 3rd Kazekage's hair as a statue as well as the hair of the Akatsuki Leader, you'll find that they are pretty much exactly the same! Think logically on everything explained on the above ^ and everything in the Shippuden Episode.

Unfortuneatly I have evidense to disprove your theory. The 3rd Kazekage is indeed dead as told by Sasori. Sasori is the one who killed the 3rd Kazekage during his mission and the reason they weren't able to find his body is that he turned it into a puppet like with most people he killed. Sasori uses the puppet against Sakura and Chiyo during there battle. Also the puppet of the 3rd Kazekage has retained its Iron sand abilites. Anyway to sum this up, this hasn't been shown on Shippuuden yet I think but it has been shown in the manga. Again, I am sorry about that.

Oh and just to add one more thing. As some people know one year ago today, I joined TFF. I know its off topic but still, I'm pretty happy about it.

[Mr. Sandman]

Unfortuneatly I have evidense to disprove your theory. The 3rd Kazekage is indeed dead as told by Sasori. Sasori is the one who killed the 3rd Kazekage during his mission and the reason they weren't able to find his body is that he turned it into a puppet like with most people he killed. Sasori uses the puppet against Sakura and Chiyo during there battle. Also the puppet of the 3rd Kazekage has retained its Iron sand abilites. Anyway to sum this up, this hasn't been shown on Shippuuden yet I think but it has been shown in the manga. Again, I am sorry about that.

Oh dude, ah, I how could I forget about that small detail. So that is what they meant by his corpse never found and him not returning. *sighs and smacks himself* Stupid, stupid, stupid me, lol. I got worked so much from the theory I forgot all about the Akatsuki. Well wanyways, to bring up a new discussion...

Seeing Naruto Shippuden Episode 236 or 237, Odama Rasengan wasn't as "big" as I thought it would be. In the manga, it looked relatively huge unless if that thing was the impact of the blow from the Rasengan. I was amazed on how "small" at was but that technique looked powerful enough. *coughs* Also, the Kyuubi Rasengan isn't really special. It doesn't change color, nor does it get anymore powerful. If you notice, the Rasengan, without the Kyuubi, Naruto has to use a Shadow Clone (in the older eps) while the Kyuubi Rasengan is powered up without the need.

During Naruto's training, he must've been able to use Rasengan without Shadow Clones (even in the filler eps). Oh, off topic discussion, lol, has anyone else noticed that it seems as if Sakura has a thing for Naruto? lol, she seemed to blush alot when Naruto got back from training with Jiraiya. Even in the manga and in Wiki, it shows Sakura more affectionate for Naruto then they did when they were children.

This could just be their growth (more htan likely) or it is just me. Anyways, something a little fun I've come up with... Top 3 Favorite Naruto Couples. *cough* No boyxboy or girlxgirl *cough*

3. Tenten X Neji
2. Temari X Shikamaru
1. Naruto X Hinata (or Sakura)

lol, it's kind of ridiculous but its a bit fun. Don't argue with me for no yaoi

[Xeim]

Um? Episodes 126 or 127 aren't out yet...They're on like episode 18 or 19 or something....>.< If you mean chapters, then that makes a lot more sense....

But, no your right, it wasn't all that special. I don't suppose I was really into the battle scene at that point though. I was itching for it to end because it had dragged on for so many episodes. So, I wasn't really thinking about what I wanted the jutsu to be. Therefore, I wasn't really disappointed.

Sakura: Another aspect of the show I don't pay much attention to. But, I suppose if you think about it she does seem to have a thing for Naruto. However, Sasuke will always be put before him, and even if she decides she likes Naruto, any mention of Sasuke and Sakura will forget all about our cuddly little kitsune. I'd rather see Naruto wih Hinata, or even Itachi, before Sakura.

Um, for sake of new discussion, since we seem to be going through these pretty fast, I'd like to turn attention completely away from Akatsuki for a bit.

I actually made a breakthrough in the ninja rank area. We were trying to figure out the difference between two ninja ranks that we didn't know much about. Well, I got rather bored from lack of activity here, and decided to do a little researching. What I found was not exactly what I was expecting. Well, we were right when we said that ANBU and Special jounin weren't the same thing. In fact, the reason special jounin are below jounin is because they only have jounin level ability in one area, instead of all. They're often assigned as their subordinates. They're also called Tokubetsu Jounin. We know a couple such as Ibiki Morino and Ebisu. So yeah, mystery solved unless you can disprove me or something.


And top three couplings huh? I've never really given them any thought beyond naruto and sasuke, lol. But, I'll give it a go here. I often have weird taste, so don't be suprised at yaoi or incest, .

1. Sasuke and Naruto
2. Neji and Hinata
and uh...
3.Gaara and that chick that he had as his student in the filler

[jenova33]

EDIT: Okay, ummm sorry Itachi. I didn't know it was under your leadership. I should have asked you to join so is it alright?

Okay so I'm new to this club(thanx Darkwolf & hi Xeim & Mr. Sandman!! luv u my siblings!!) so I apologize for anything off topic and such. ^.^;;

So anywho. About the Kazekage: Muahaha, he's hott as a puppet, lol. Sorry couldn't help myself.

Sakura: Mehh, she and Sasuke are bound to be and I think Naruto will end up taking a liking to Hinata. Something like that. Even so, of course Sakura has found a way to be more affectionate with Naruto ever since the beginning of the Zabuza and Haku saga. Ergo, she blushed as he was doing some special move or some crap like that. *rolls eyes*

My Top Couples:
1. Naruto x Hinata (>.<)
2. TenTen x Neji
3. Rock Lee x Sakura (Muahaha, just coz Sakura is a b*tch. >.<)