What do atheists do to feel better when they're sad?

[xenen]

I'm just dealing with a lot of stuff and trying to stave off the idea of suicide.
HEY "CELL" PERSON i know ha you feel im practicly in the same position as you
but what i do is eather DRAW anime or sing
THINK IT OVER PLZ DONT KILL YOUR SELF I DONT EVEN KNOW YOU BUT STILL I'LL CRY FOR YOU

[.EcKS.]

suicide is for pussies...even though it takes alot to kill ones self..but i mean there are some sweet ways to do it, without feelin "pain"
1. take about 23-24 sleeping pills, with some a little bit of alky.
won't feel a thing, other than extreme drowsieness.

ok now DONT commit suicide, maybe you should try to find something that will take your mind off. knitting, candlestick making..i dont care..try something..listen to good charlotte or simple plan that seems to stop kids from killing themselves..dont ask me why, id think itd have the reverse effect....well...if not anything take up smoking pot..dont ask me why, but hell its a lot less stupid then killing yourself

[Jin]

Originally Posted by OmniTense

I strongly disagree. If I am working on a problem such as an emotional issue that causes me pain, killing myself does not solve the problem it merely dispenses with it. Suicide is not an answer it is a refusal to answer and a refusal of the very question, itself.

If you are faced with a question, or a "problem", on a game show in which you are punished for being wrong and rewarded for being right, you can either answer the question and risk getting it wrong for a chance to get it right or you can quit. If you quit, the problem is solved. The result is neither good nor bad, it simply ceases to exist. Depending on the severity of the punishments, quitting may be the more appealing option. The more valuable the prize, the more punishment a person will likely take.

Let's say it's a Japanese gameshow and the punishment is having a 2 pound weight hurled at your head and for every question you get wrong, 2 more pounds are added. There is a point at which you are going to say to yourself, "this prize isn't worth the punishment I will recieve if I'm wrong." A perfectly sane thing to do, most will agree.

The joys of life is the prize and pain and suffering are the punishments for being wrong. At a certain point, depending on your willpower and your desire for the prize, suicide is an appealing option in the same way that quitting the gameshow is.

No, it doesn't "solve" the problem, but as problems are only problems if you experience the consequences, a lack of conciousness and experience will negate the problem's value, along with the prize's.

The possibility of the joys and happiness that life can bring is a very valuable prize, don't get me wrong. But there is a point at which it just isn't worth the pain. The problem with some people, and most likely the creator of this thread, is that we may give up too easily, due to a weak will. Take someone who was taken prisoner by the Japs in WW2. Although someone surviving and being rescued would certainly have the more willpower and most people's respect, I certainly wouldn't think weak of the person that takes his own life to solve the problem of being in pain.

That was longer than I had anticipated.

[OmniTense]

Originally Posted by Jintatsu

If you are faced with a question, or a "problem", on a game show in which you are punished for being wrong and rewarded for being right, you can either answer the question and risk getting it wrong for a chance to get it right or you can quit. If you quit, the problem is solved. The result is neither good nor bad, it simply ceases to exist. Depending on the severity of the punishments, quitting may be the more appealing option. The more valuable the prize, the more punishment a person will likely take.

Let's say it's a Japanese gameshow and the punishment is having a 2 pound weight hurled at your head and for every question you get wrong, 2 more pounds are added. There is a point at which you are going to say to yourself, "this prize isn't worth the punishment I will recieve if I'm wrong." A perfectly sane thing to do, most will agree.

The joys of life is the prize and pain and suffering are the punishments for being wrong. At a certain point, depending on your willpower and your desire for the prize, suicide is an appealing option in the same way that quitting the gameshow is.

No, it doesn't "solve" the problem, but as problems are only problems if you experience the consequences, a lack of conciousness and experience will negate the problem's value, along with the prize's.

The possibility of the joys and happiness that life can bring is a very valuable prize, don't get me wrong. But there is a point at which it just isn't worth the pain. The problem with some people, and most likely the creator of this thread, is that we may give up too easily, due to a weak will. Take someone who was taken prisoner by the Japs in WW2. Although someone surviving and being rescued would certainly have the more willpower and most people's respect, I certainly wouldn't think weak of the person that takes his own life to solve the problem of being in pain.

That was longer than I had anticipated.

Hahahah...
You and I always end up in these kind of debates.


What you describe is the "cutting of losses". But then again...should someone take their own life to rid themselves of the punishment...they may find that nothingness is, itself, a much greater punishment and not the great refuge they imagined it was. Or who knows, Pascal's Gambit may just come to haunt them for the rest of eternity (Don't you even get started you lot of bible burners, you! lol)

Sometimes the terror known to you, is milder and gentler than the terror that isn't.

[Jin]

They may indeed find it a greater punishment, or whatever does come after death may be more dangerous. Going back to my gameshow analogy, the quitter doesn't know what will happen after he quits. Angry audience members could beat him for quitting for all he knows. There is a risk in quitting life as you have no clue what's next, but all I'm saying is that it solves problems in life by removing them completely. What happens after is really for another thread.

[Chez Daja]

To be fair, I believe suicide ends all problems.

Somebody pops their clogs, people mourn for weeks, months, years, however long it takes and eventually it stops getting to them so much.

I don't know how to perceive an afterlife, but if it's an empty bore, there's always the whole haunting people thing to resort to...

But yeah; sooeyside iz bad.

Depression is a ****ing wanker who bites you on your ass at the most shittiest of times. (Which I guess, is the point.)

Just wait it out, yo. Life has it's down's. You just gotta wait for the perks.

[Dark Serge]

Cell I really do not think you should commit suicide, it would only solve your problems in this physical life. You gotta look at it this way too consider how your family would feel especialy your parents(if they are even close with you) would feel seeing their child dead and havind to bury you. I am of course concerned for you ALOT! Someone I now and I really love attempted suicide 3 times one time she actually died infront of me then the ambulance finaly arrived and no shes still with us.

And I too have expierienced very horrible deppresion, sometimes it is not just the lack of endorpine chemical that causes deppresion. You may have some sort of OCD where you cannot help but think about negative stuff continously, which is caused when nouronal gaps which recieve the Ill put it in lamens terms happy chimical is too far apart and so the chimical never reaches its destination which equals Continous and uncontrollable Depression Caused by the lack of both or either Seretonin and Endorphines.

I to have expeirenced harsh depression with my OCD and Anxiety I had with fearing death and I thought it would never end but it did I started getting on Lexepro it helped for a little while, but quit working a half a year later, then I felt that way again so I then tryed Zoloft and now I am happy and I have been taking it for around 2 and a quater months Different antideppresents work better for different people if you got what I got go to a docter and see for sure then Take Antideppresents or Anti-Anxiety try them out till you find one that works best for you and good luck.

You have my love and peace


May the infinint bless you and let you live in a happier and better tomarrow