Will earth survive the human race?

[silvereel]

Originally Posted by -Xu-

1814 was the last frost fair, and yes the Earth does go through natural cycles(like that which caused the great flood and the ice age), but we aren't helping things and yes, we may be screwed if another 'super' natural diaster happens, but that's out of our hands, golbal warming isn't, yet...

If anyone cares 1608 was the first frost fair.

umm....No.heatin did not cause the great flood.God did.So is this saying,That there will be a new iceage?!Get the thick cloths!J/K.Any way,I dont really think global warming will do anything.As jof said:the icecaps will melt any way.

[Chez Daja]

Originally Posted by silvereel

umm....No.heatin did not cause the great flood.God did.So is this saying,That there will be a new iceage?!Get the thick cloths!J/K.Any way,I dont really think global warming will do anything.As jof said:the icecaps will melt any way.

You must understand that people have other views. You believe it was caused by God, whereas -Xu- bases her views of off scientific standpoint. You can't say somebody was wrong or right unless you truly know... which you don't.
Also, global warming is already having an effect on us. Look around. It's on the news and everything.

[silvereel]

Originally Posted by Chez Daja

You must understand other peoples' views. You believe it was caused by God, whereas -Xu- bases her views of off scientific standpoint. You can't say somebody was wrong or right unless you truly know... which you don't.

true.But in my point of view that is true.I am sorry that i rushed into it but there is more proof that it was caused by god.But as you said any one can have there own view.

[Chez Daja]

Outright saying somebody was wrong was a bit harsh. I'm not saying you're wrong, or -Xu- is wrong, I'm just stating that people are likely to have amny different views. I think everybody has the capacity to accept each others.

Where is your proof that God caused the great flood?

[Sasquatch]

One of the most bogus arguments for "Global Warming" (meaning, human-caused global warming) is the correlation between levels of certain chemicals and climate. First off, nobody can decide how hot it really is -- I've heard that it's hotter now than it has ever been in the past twenty to six hundred years, and everything in between. Second, yes, there are more of certain chemicals in the atmosphere now than there has been in the past, and yes, we might be experiencing a warmer worldwide climate, but that doesn't mean the two are related. And third, there are many more natural causes for most of the "dangerous" chemicals than there are man-made causes ... For example. You'll find on most aeresol cans something about how it contains no CFCs. CFCs are chlorofluorocarbons, chemicals that are said to be some of the most destructive to the Ozone Layer. Some environmentalists went on a quest to stop the production of CFCs, which were widely used in aerosols. They failed to mention that each and every volcanic eruption releases CFCs into the atmosphere on a massive scale ... what was released at Mt. St. Helens was most likely more than the amount of CFCs ever produced.

Does Global Warming exist? Maybe. Is it man's fault? Probably not. Man's actions probably don't amount to a fraction of it.

[Itachi Uchiha]

Man has played apart in global warming. We have been adding carbon dioxide to the atmosphere sine the mid 1800's. Because of this there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and as we know, carbon dioxide traps heat to warm our planet. Since we have been using fossil fuels more and more, more carbon dioxide is being released and scintists say that this is the highest recorded amount ever.

Sure is might be a natural cycle but us as humans have been adding to it since we started to burn fossil fuels. Even if we lower are emissions and find new and better ways of creating energy, we can't stop what is going to happen.

[Jof]

Yeah, its proven that we have added to the 'warming' and as such the temprature has risen to a higher level sooner than it would of done if the Earth had been left to warm and cool naturally, if i remember correctly then its only by a small amount that the temperature has increased but its more the difference from how much it should of increased and the hypothesised increase to come. Apparently it could have a large effect.

[Sasquatch]

Originally Posted by iamsephiroth

Since we have been using fossil fuels more and more, more carbon dioxide is being released and scintists say that this is the highest recorded amount ever.

Actually, this is just about the only recorded amount ever. We haven't had the technology to measure global levels until recently, and that's still questionable. Even if this is the highest recorded amount, there's still nothing to say it's mankind's fault and not natural.

Sure is might be a natural cycle but us as humans have been adding to it since we started to burn fossil fuels. Even if we lower are emissions and find new and better ways of creating energy, we can't stop what is going to happen.

That's right, we can't stop what is going to happen because it would have happened anyway. And like I've said, there's not much to say that we're adding to it that much.

Besides -- emissions and such will gradually get lower anyway. "Greenhouse gasses" are a major issue now, but if you think back a hundred years, horse manure was developing into a major issue, too -- imagine three million people in a city with horses taking them everywhere, and try to figure out how to clean out the streets. But technology made that problem go away, just like it will make this problem. Profit is the most powerful driving force behind technology, you think nobody's out there trying to create better methods of energy production?

Originally Posted by Jof

Yeah, its proven that we have added to the 'warming' and as such the temprature has risen to a higher level sooner than it would of done if the Earth had been left to warm and cool naturally, if i remember correctly then its only by a small amount that the temperature has increased but its more the difference from how much it should of increased and the hypothesised increase to come. Apparently it could have a large effect.

Actually, no, it hasn't been proven. It's been speculated, depending on who you ask, that human interaction has "accelerated a global climate change", but there's no proof of it. And like I said, even if it is true, it is on a miniscule scale.

[Jof]

there's not much to say that we're adding to it that much.

Ice tests (something to do with layers of snow) have proven that we are now adding to the rate at which we are heating up. As i have said several times the earth would naturally heat up due to the natural warming and cooling.

it is on a miniscule scale.

I also said this, it is only by a point something of a degree that it has risen anyway. But the fact is that the estimation is alot higher than it should be, i shouldnt of thrown all of my work away 0.o and i could of told you the statistics. As my Geography Teacher kept quoting to us...

Originally Posted by Mr Halliwell

Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics

So lets call it 0.7865304865526354. Nice and concise

[Sasquatch]

Originally Posted by Jof

Ice tests (something to do with layers of snow) have proven that we are now adding to the rate at which we are heating up. As i have said several times the earth would naturally heat up due to the natural warming and cooling.

Ice tests have also "proven" that the earth is billions of years old, yet failed to hold up under logic. Like a crashed plane half-buried in ice that should have been, judging by the layers and thickness of ice that had formed around it, there for a few hundred thousand years. And they can prove that the earth is heating up, but how, praytell, can they prove that it's heating up faster because of human interaction?

I also said this, it is only by a point something of a degree that it has risen anyway. But the fact is that the estimation is alot higher than it should be, i shouldnt of thrown all of my work away ... So lets call it 0.7865304865526354. Nice and concise

Which would mean that somewhere around 0.7865304865526300 would have happened despite human interaction, if not more, or all.

[Jof]

No, you misunderstood, Ive posted (twice before i think) about how the earth naturally heats and cools, what i am saying is that at this time the earth has heated to more than it should of done at this time, etc, etc, it is estimated that its going to heat up at a significantly faster rate and become hotter than it is supposed to.

[OnOneRyder]

Circumstances change, the sun goes through different cycles over thousands of years. A large enough solar flare could incinerate our entire planet, moderate ones could certainly affect our temperature.

Sure we're going through a high right now, but our planet has seen worse. During the cretaceous period average temperatures were 10 degrees celsius hotter. That kind of a change in modern times would result in the both polar caps thawing, thermal expansion of the oceans and say hello to 400 foot sea level rises.

I'm not saying humans are not affecting the rises, with all the crap we're pumping into the air something will change but global warming will not be the death of us, we will take care of that FAR before this planet becomes uninhabitable due to temps.

[Lacroix]

I doubt humans can kill the planet. I think these save the planet people who recycle and all that are mistaken. What makes them think the Earth needs saving? It has been here far longer than us and will be here long after our bones have turned to dust. We will be gone before the Earth even noticed we were here. The Earth will be perfectly fine.

[Alizée Jacotey]

Originally Posted by Lacroix

I doubt humans can kill the planet. I think these save the planet people who recycle and all that are mistaken. What makes them think the Earth needs saving? It has been here far longer than us and will be here long after our bones have turned to dust. We will be gone before the Earth even noticed we were here. The Earth will be perfectly fine.

Yes.

We are not going to destroy the planet. Everything that we use that is oh so bad, where does it come from? Yea, it sort of comes from around us. Even the most non-theistic person has to believe that the Earth would not be filled with things that will blow it up. Besides, there are a vast number of religions, one of them will go ahead and save us before its too late.

If I am wrong, the effects will not be felt until our great-grandchildren are dead. Why care?