Is it wrong to push a girl?

rJ floW · 06-22-2006, 10:57 PM

Ok i know hittin a lady (and for the rest of this post ill say bitch, cause you'd only think about hittin someone bitchin at you) is wrong if your a guy....no way around that one...but there may be an alternative...

Firstly, the reason you'd think about hittin a bitch, most of the time, is cause she is over-reacting and probably shouting in your face or pushing or slapping you, you wanna show her "why are you doin this you know i could drop you" but if you backhand the bitch, she'll learn nothing except the back of your hand really hurts....

so the alternative (and this is after the whole "talk the situation down" or "walk away" is not working), is to prove you are much stronger and willing to do something (without actually striking her). I know this MAY get a little contraversial, but if you pie faced her and put her to the ground (for those who dont know what that means, basically pushing her face with an open hand and pushing her to her ass)...you may ask, WHY would you do this, and its more psychological than anything. It embarrasses her, and it shows how inferior she is. You have not hit her, and if she gets up and starts again, she has some willpower haha. But would that be wrong?

I personally dont think so cause after everything is exhausted, you STILL haven't hit her and she should think twice about gettin up and tryin it again. I think thats the best alternative.

What does everyone else think?

*this is assuming of course you are much bigger than the bitch and she IS actually inferior, if you get your ass kicked by a bitch, its your own fault ahha*

Lai · 06-22-2006, 11:03 PM

Hitting her wouldn't solve a single thing. There's a good chance she'd retaliate by doing something. She'd either kick you in the groin, hurt you back somehow, or tell lots of people. In the latter case, a lot of people would see you as a disgraceful person and disassociate themselves from you. That's the way I see any form of physical abuse, though; not just women. I don't think hitting anyone solves a single thing.

rJ floW · 06-22-2006, 11:06 PM

I'm FAIRLY sure you didn't answer the question i posted, i knwo its wrong to hit a bitch, which is why im proposing an alternative, a simple push....to the face...to put her to the ground...to show some intimidation...which A LOT Of bitches need....

PLEASE dont just say "Rj your a dumb ****er, you never hit a bitch" cause i KNOW that, ive never hit a bitch in my life, PLEASE dont stray from the question

Lai · 06-22-2006, 11:38 PM

I wasn't insulting you. I was stating what opinion was. I said that I thought it would be wrong to push a girl, even if she is being annoying.

Rasler · 06-22-2006, 11:54 PM

I suppose a push is less wrong than a strike. Her resulting reaction would depend on how big of a b-tch she was.

The spectrum ranges from:
'She realizes her fault for making a b-tchy scene and regains her temper and learns her lesson'(people will think you are abusive though) to 'She kicks you in the groin, pepper sprays you, then has the police remove you for assault'.

Tiffany · 06-23-2006, 01:18 AM

I'm of the opinion that if you're trying to figure out ways to get around hitting women, then you're probrably hanging around with the wrong type of women.

None of my friends, or people I know do that. How about finding some more balanced women to be around rather than to try and show them "intimidation"? Sorry but this whole topic is kinda weird.

Angantyr · 06-23-2006, 01:41 AM

I saw you had replied and figured you would say something perfect or completely differant. I was partially right, and you do have a good point.

Anyway some girls can be really annoying and use their innocence to get away with anything. I mean I wouldn't hurt a female Id only push them if they really annoyed the hell out of me, but I think some girls use it to their advantage.

Tiffany · 06-23-2006, 02:05 AM

Unfortunatly you're totally right. Those types of girls annoy the hell out of me. I would have issues if anyone actually pushed a girl out of anger, but I mean... if a girl is going crazy and is biting/hitting/kicking/spitting then I mean you need to do something. I'd restrain her until she finally calmed down, and would walk away.

And never come back! Seriously. If you're hanging around girls who are that whacked, you really need to re-evaluated your friendship. lol. But that's just how I see it.

06-23-2006, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rJ floW

"why are you doin this you know i could drop you"

The reason you should not hit a girl is pointed out right here. Because you ARE stronger than us most of the time. As well as emotionally. (not in all cases) An with that said, I don't think anyone has the right to put their hands on anyone else. Guy or girl.

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Originally Posted by rJ floW

It embarrasses her, and it shows how inferior she is. You have not hit her, and if she gets up and starts again, she has some willpower haha. But would that be wrong?

Seemingly the only thing she is understanding by that. Is not that she is embarassed at all. The only thing is shows her is that you are too immature to handle the matter, and probaly she should no be around you ever again. Not only that, but it also outlines a behavior that you are trying to intenisionally harm her by doing this. So in that aspect it is infact abuse. An any court can tell you that.

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Originally Posted by rJ floW

I personally dont think so cause after everything is exhausted, you STILL haven't hit her and she should think twice about gettin up and tryin it again. I think thats the best alternative.

I personally think the best alternativeis #1. To not resort to violence, and to just walk away if she cannot be calmed. #2 that is you both are acting like immature two year olds than you shouldn't be together in the first place.

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Originally Posted by rJ floW

*this is assuming of course you are much bigger than the bitch and she IS actually inferior, if you get your ass kicked by a bitch, its your own fault ahha*

Honestly you knowing she is weak an still putting her down as well as gettig physical shows that you may not be man enough for the relationship. Relationships are about respect an boundries, and it shows that you are willing to cross those boundries to hurt the "weaker" just so that you don't get your feeling hurt. Honestly I think it is a cowardly, selfish, arrogant, two year old hissy fit.

*Chez Daja* · 06-23-2006, 06:11 AM

What the.

I've NEVER been hit by any male IN MY LIFE, except for my father and brother (that's different. Getting in trouble, young brother...y'know).

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Originally Posted by Tiffany

I'm of the opinion that if you're trying to figure out ways to get around hitting women, then you're probrably hanging around with the wrong type of women.

I was going to say the same thing, with some differences...

"If you hang out with girls you argue that badly with, why are you hanging out with girls like that?"

Seriously, never in my life have I had a yelling, screaming, bitching fight with anybody who wasn't family (years ago anyway.) I would never let a man hit me, and if he did, chances are, I'd hit him back. Maybe even worse. Self-defence comes in handy!

It is true I have used self-defence OUTSIDE of family issues, but these are simply to help myself out of getting mugged or raped. I'm not going to give any man the satisfaction of being superior to me and taking advantage of me.

However, that's neither here, nor there.

I think it's wrong to use physical violence to solve a verbal fight or situation. I think, however, it's fine to slap (not hard), or gently push somebody. A slap usually shocks the hell out of anybody who's standing there, ripping you apart with a verbal shredder, or hitting you. (I use the word "you", being in position of the man).

If your girl, you shouldn't use your whiny, bullshit "I can get what I want if I whine and pout and being an annoying little ****" move on everybody. Those type of people, are people whom I utterly DESPISE. I have known people like that in the past, that have driven me so crazy, I have physically and emotionally broken them. It doesn't matter how arrogant or whiny they act, there's ALWAYS a way to break somebodies' spirit. You just need to find a weak point and hit it until they start to crumble. (This usually only works with people you know fairly well, though.)

And after all, isn't THAT the best way to hurt somebody without breaking bones?

TheHasteChocobo · 06-23-2006, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tiffany

Unfortunatly you're totally right. Those types of girls annoy the hell out of me. I would have issues if anyone actually pushed a girl out of anger, but I mean... if a girl is going crazy and is biting/hitting/kicking/spitting then I mean you need to do something. I'd restrain her until she finally calmed down, and would walk away.

And never come back! Seriously. If you're hanging around girls who are that whacked, you really need to re-evaluated your friendship. lol. But that's just how I see it.

Yeah I totally agree with you. There are some girls out there that I WILL NOT consider a respectalble woman. I live in Texas so there are a lot of red neck girls who think they are tough, they actually boast about how they can and would like to kick some guys asses. Some of them pick fights, it's disgusting. They are unreasonalble and if you touch them or try to restrain them then they will come with the slapping or punching. Trust me, the only way to get these type of girls to settle down so you can talk to them is a good swift punch to the face. Luckily I have never had to deal with one of those women.

Here's my conclusion, One must dedermine what methods are nescessary to calm a bitch down depending on the bitchness level of the woman, and then use the least extreme one.

Rikkuffx · 06-23-2006, 06:42 AM

My dad would kick my moms ass for no reason at all,just because he was a drunk,well he still is.But anyway yes,if you're agressive toward a girl its called abuse!!No matter if you're yelling at her,calling her names,pushing her,or throwing her down a flight of stairs,its all abuse and its so wrong!!!

Jin · 06-23-2006, 07:04 AM

I'm sorry, but this "never hit a girl" thing is complete bullshit in my opinion. You shouldn't hit anyone unless in self defence (or possibly in a friendly manner if the other person is alright with it). It doesn't matter what the gender is. However, if a woman starts attacking me, then of course I'm going to fight back. There are plenty of women that can beat me up and to not fight back because she's a woman is not only stupid from my perspective, as I will get hurt, but it's insulting towards her, whether she takes it that way or not.

*Chez Daja* · 06-23-2006, 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Jintatsu

There are plenty of women that can beat me up and to not fight back because she's a woman is not only stupid from my perspective, as I will get hurt, but it's insulting towards her, whether she takes it that way or not.

Exactly!

There's a lot of talk of women playing the "I'm innocent" card in this thread, but I believe you just pinpointed an excellent aspect right there, by saying you will get hurt if you don't fight back is one thing, but by saying it's insulting to the woman is the best thing I've read in here. You are absolutely correct.

I've had many men struggle to be superior to me in power, during own, personal fights. I ALWAYS fight, and they're FORCED to fight back because it is impossible to hold me back since I -can- fight.

Just say I was a type of girl who was fighting physically with you. There's about a 70% chance I could win a fight against a guy who doesn't know fighting or self defence. Of course a guy needs to fight back.

However, I feel the point of my other post still stand.

I just thought I'd say Jintatsu is awesome for having such an accurate view.