Abortion: Do you Agree or Not?

[Jin]

Originally Posted by sasquatch

It's quite ignorant to deny that that's usually the situation.

Did I deny that? As usual, you've jumped to a conclusion. Or perhaps you were just being philisophical? In either case, just because the majority of people that have abortions are of that caliber doesn't mean that everyone is.

[Chez Daja]

Setzer holds a very intellegent point, but also, in seeing this, you cannot offer adoptions out only to women that have been raped. The problem today is that they're so many cases of rape that it comes to a point where you have think "well, if this woman doesnt want hers and she was raped, I can easily say I was raped and wasnt and blah de ****ing blah", the problem is a lot of people these days get drunk and have sex. A lot of kids are results from drunken sex.

Ew. That reminded me of pirate sex or something.

I don't think anybody should be limited to not being able to have sex for pleasure. Sex IS pleasurable. Everyone wants to do it, and it's even better with somebody you share a strong emotion attachment, an emotional bond with.

Go have sex.
BUT PROTECT YOURSELVES. Damn kids, having kids in the where and the who and the what.

Mmhm.

Well i agree with it but then again i dont agree with it. I cant really make a choice due to it being someones choice in this decision and it doesnt matter what others think, you shouldnt be allowed to interfear.

Well if someone feels like they would rather have an abortion rather than keep the baby or even put it up for adoption then that is up to them and there isnt a right or wrong to this matter.

People are different and with this case, they will do and think different things in there life and you cant say that someone is wrong when you are just 1 speaker.

Well as you can see i disagree with abortion but then again i dont disagee with it. It is not for me to make this decision in saying because no-one should really listen to what i am saying right now except the next thing i am going to say.

What i am going to say it:

No-one can make-up anyones mind about this, only the person who decides the action to be take can decide. No-one should try to choose some ones path/destiny or what ever you think.

It is up to the person who is making the decision and no-one else so there is reall no matter of discussing this.

Thanx for taking the time to read this.

[Storm]

Of course I agree with abortion, and it is not just because I am an unreligious or heartless person. I think life is precious, but in order for a child to be brought up into the world well, there must be the correct circumstances. If you are living in a flat with little money and a full-time job, and with a really stressful lifestyle, bringing a child up into it may not be such a good idea. There is always a time and a place to have children, and if it is not the right time or place, it may be less cruel for an abortion to be made.

Of course, there are limits to when a child should be aborted. I don't believe there is much harm in termenating a bundle of tiny cells, as its the kind of thingwe take for granted. We loose cells everyday, and they do not have a complex "life" as such. If it is a moving, breathing foetus, then its less moraly right. There would have been plenty of time before hand to have gotten rid of it, and once it is a living creature, killing it would be a lot less acceptable.

I agree with valentine, some people just cannot offer a child a good life in their current life position and usually the traumer of leaving a child in a home that the mother has no other contact with for the rest of her life can be heartbreaking. If you didn't want a child at first, gave it up for adoption then some time later wanted to see him/her, the fact that you know you couldnt could be horrible. It could even be horrible for the child, knowing that his/her mother gave him/her up instead of taking care of him/her.

[Sasquatch]

I don't see how "My mother was not in a situation to raise me, so instead she gave me to a couple that wanted a child and were in the situation to raise one properly" can be any worse than choosing to murder your child instead of give it the chance for any sort of life with loving parents.

[Chez Daja]

I have to agree, although perhaps the referal they were making was toward maternal work-leave, which can be catastrophic on ones' finances should the woman be living by herself with hardly a cent to scape by.

Then again, I do agree with you. Adoption can be a wonderful thing for couples who can't conceive... some women just can't deal with the stress of pregnancy.

[TomStrife]

Originally Posted by valentine89

Of course I agree with abortion, and it is not just because I am an unreligious or heartless person. I think life is precious, but in order for a child to be brought up into the world well, there must be the correct circumstances. If you are living in a flat with little money and a full-time job, and with a really stressful lifestyle, bringing a child up into it may not be such a good idea. There is always a time and a place to have children, and if it is not the right time or place, it may be less cruel for an abortion to be made.

So don`t have the sex. If you can`t handle the Baby, then don`t create.
As I`ve stated before, commiting adultuary is a horrible sin anyways.
Centuries ago, women would get the death penalty for sex outside of marriage.

Now look at our twisted culture.

[hellbred]

Originally Posted by Pie Man 360

It could even be horrible for the child, knowing that his/her mother gave him/her up instead of taking care of him/her.

My ex-girlfriend was adopted, and she doesn't seem to give her real parents a second thought. I'm sure some adoptees would enjoy knowing who their parents are though.

Originally Posted by Pie Man 360

usually the traumer of leaving a child in a home that the mother has no other contact with for the rest of her life can be heartbreaking

I guess they shouldn't have given the child up then. Irresponsibility shouldn't make the child suffer more because the parents decide 10-15 years into the child's life they want to be parents.

i do not agree with adoption or abortion at all it is wrong and mean on the child anyone agree with meor disagree?

[Chez Daja]

^ I disagree with you.

While I feel abortion is wrong, I feel adoption is a good option if you can't deal with a child. And what, if a couple has a baby... and can't be financially stable to look after it, then what? Let the kid starve to death?

It's been said, if you don't want a kid, don't have sex. Or use protection.

Rarely, protection fails. It is rare, but it can happen, like Loco said. So what, you want a poor family to look after a kid they don't have the cash to look after? Yeah. That's really helpful.

And also, it's way more "mean" letting a child starve, then giving a child up to let it live.

[Cloudgurl69]

I really can't decide whether abortion is right or wrong, but deep down I lean more towards the fact that it's wrong. I believe that a baby has a right to live, it is their life and no-one should have the power to take it away from them. Everyone is their own person. I think it's terrible that people have abortions just because they don't want a baby. Jeez, why didn't they just have safe sex in the first place? Unless it was an accident, but still, you could always put the baby up for adoption. Giving the baby away is much nicer than killing he/she off, the baby deserves a shot at life. The only time I would agree with abortion is if having the baby endangers the mothers and the baby's life. I.e Rather one loss than two, which sounds mean I know. =/

i don't think it's wrong. i think there should be a better process.
who am i to tell a woman what can come out of her body?

[TomStrife]

Originally Posted by Chez Daja

Or use protection.

Chez: Out of your entire post I only disagreed with three words which are listed in the Quote Box above. Using protection is just a sneaky way to get what you want without paying the price. The joy of having a baby should be worth the pain anyways but you are entitled to your own outlook on this topic as am I.

Due to my laziness I will not give an names, but whoever posted that adoption was wrong I disagreed with as well.

If the father of the baby is already a spouse to the mother, I see nothing wrong with having the baby in the first place. If you are a poor, married couple you should give the baby up for adoption.

EDIT:

Saracen: Who is the woman to kill an innocent lifeform just because she cannot handle its existence?

[Storm]

Whether abortion is right or wrong is due to personal beliefs, and of religious faith if you have one. Like everything in the world, there is no right or wrong answer. If you feel it is an ok thing to do, you would do it, as someone who opposes to it wouldn't.

Originally Posted by TomStrife

So don`t have the sex. If you can`t handle the Baby, then don`t create.
As I`ve stated before, commiting adultuary is a horrible sin anyways.
Centuries ago, women would get the death penalty for sex outside of marriage.

Now look at our twisted culture.

It is not always couples who have sex before mariage who abort. A couple in incorrect circumstances for a baby may abort, and of course there is the method of putting a baby up for adoption, but many females become attatched to what they have created and have had growing inside them. This couple may be living in very poor conditions, but the child may be given a bad upbringing. Adoption is an option, but a mother who has grown attatched to her child may not want to let it go. Another thing coming into play here is the fact of having the right to having a child. Having a child IS of course human right, so isn't choosing NOT to have a child a human right too?Also, if a woman is raped and she feels uncomfertable for having a child. She may abort, she may not. She should have the choice.

Originally Posted by C