2007 New Year's TOA discussion

LocoColt04 · 09-23-2006, 09:05 PM

I have some propositions for the next tournament even though the current one is not yet complete. First of all, if the ideas I have are set into motion, the next tournament would start in January, shortly after the new year (alotting time for anyone on vacation to return, based on responses in December for actual start time).

Now, here's what I have in mind. Animosity between the alliance-based clubs is high. Everyone wants to fight everyone. I was thinking... what if the next tournament reflected this? It would give every club ample time to rally their troops and get in some practice time. Of course, if one club opts out, its positions could be filled by non-affiliated members (i.e. members without club alliance). Either way, allow me to go ahead and lay out what I had in mind.

4 members of the Seekers of Illumination, light-based club.
4 members of the Soldiers of the Moderate, neutral club.
4 members of the Brotherhood of Doom, dark-based club.
4 members of The Masters, an organization of mercenaries.

I've already considered both random draw as well as having each club face its own members so that the best from each club is up against the best from each other... but I decided that the latter takes something away... as does the former. What I have in mind is a 1-2-3-4 type of setup, where one member from each club will be in each bracket. They will be randomized within their specific quarters, so there will still be some randomization to be had, but this way both the first and second rounds would guarantee that no two members from the same organization would face one another until the third round at the earliest. Does that make sense? I would hope so. I can always whip up a sample chart if anyone would like a visual representation.

Keep in mind that this is only an idea -- we do not have to go with this club v. club setup, but I really would like to, if only for this one tournament. It's something that was mentioned a while back, before the current tournament had started, and it's been on my mind ever since. Tournament theme and setting is still completely undecided, and definitely up for discussion, if anyone has some ideas they feel strongly about.

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NOTES

THE DISCUSSION HAS CHANGED AS PER POST 14. THE CLUB IDEA IS NO LONGER THE FOCAL POINT OF THE DISCUSSION, BUT MAY BE RECONSIDERED LATER.

MAJOR CHANGES TO THE NEW IDEA AS PER POST 19.

FOCAL POINT POST 25.

POST 58, WHAT IS AND IS NOT OFFICIAL AT THIS POINT.

POST 68, EVERYTHING IS FINAL.

Shiendar · 09-24-2006, 12:42 PM

That's a great idea, Loco. I'm sure that the Brotherhood will go for it, but I am not quite sure about the Seekers. They have too few members almost... but let's see what THEY have to say first. (Toro flog me if I presume too much)

King Fenii · 09-24-2006, 12:54 PM

It all sounds nice. But keep in mind that some good fighters aren't in Clubs (I presume), so that would automatically mean that they couldn't participate.

I like the whole system, but you need to find a solution for that. And what if one Club can't bring up enough players to fight? Like the Seekers or the Moderates?

You're always sharp Cesar, and this'll probably work. But, just think about the WHAT IF's.

Dark One · 09-24-2006, 12:59 PM

I like the idea it sound great. I hope to join these year. Well I think the clubs well go for it. I don't have to much to say about it but I like the idea. Well see how it goes. There is still alot of time.

Thanks

Kaitou · 09-24-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by IM

I like the whole system, but you need to find a solution for that. And what if one Club can't bring up enough players to fight? Like the Seekers or the Moderates?

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Originally Posted by That Ambassador Guy

Of course, if one club opts out, its positions could be filled by non-affiliated members (i.e. members without club alliance).

I'm sure we'll find enough members by January. Of course, only having two active members is a problem.

I really like the idea and will make every attempt to have SoI participate.

Slim Perfect · 09-24-2006, 01:34 PM

My recommendation is to do two seperate ToA's. One for the club idea, one for others. However, this may cause problems as club members often join normal ToA's. W/e you do I'll be happy. Your call

LocoColt04 · 09-24-2006, 07:28 PM

Well, if all four clubs fill the ranks, then those without alliance will just have to sit this one out. Besides, none of this is official yet -- it's just an idea. I thought it would be a fun idea though, and if that means a handful of writers will have to sit out until next summer, then a handful of writers will have to sit out until next summer.

I'd be against two separate TOAs simply because it would be too much to run. If we're going to do that, we may as well open the brackets up to 32 participants, but I can guarantee that we won't be able to find 32 active participants. I wouldn't doubt that the ranks would fill, but half of the first round fights would be empty.

If we go with the club-based tournament, those without alliance can do one of two things -- seek alliance with one of the four sided clubs and attempt to secure a position on the team, or wait until June for the next open tournament. I won't do a club-based tournament twice in a row. It's just a potential theme for this one.

Lai · 09-24-2006, 08:07 PM

I think I might actually join next time around if it's open registration. Of course, I'd have to conform to the rules of this forum, but I'm willing to give it a try. Wish House should totally be allowed to join up. We're awesome.

Toph Bei Fong · 09-24-2006, 08:32 PM

Wish House is just a Silent Hill club, not a faction. So.. you guys can't join. Heh.

LocoColt04 · 09-24-2006, 08:56 PM

Err... yeah, to clarify (again) for anyone who doesn't understand the proposed premise of this tournament... it's the light side versus the dark side versus the neutral "side" versus the mercenaries. Like I said in my previous post, if we follow through with this theme, people who are not members of one of the four clubs listed in the first post will not be able to participate, plain and simple.

Andromeda · 09-24-2006, 11:20 PM

I know I'm not a participate in this, but I thought I would throw out something. Why don't you have a wild card bracket as well. One for all of the people that either do not belong to a club or if there are extras, fight not being affliated in part with their club. That way everyone can still play, but those not part of it won't be left out.

LocoColt04 · 09-25-2006, 09:10 AM

I had considered that, but the only issue would be figuring out exactly how to work it into the brackets. Who gets the bye rounds? How is selecting those who get bye rounds fair? Again, if one of the clubs doesn't prepare a team of four members, its entire position is scrapped and the four openings are fair game to the first applicants to fill the positions. It may be a bit premature to say so, but I'm not really expecting a team from the Soldiers of the Moderate. Too inactive.

At the rate these responses are coming along, I may just scrap the club idea altogether... I'll wait for some more opinions before doing so, but it seems like there are more people without alliance willing to fight than there are people with alliance. Granted, the Brotherhood of Doom and The Masters are raring and ready to go -- perhaps if we call off this club-based TOA, I can hold a smaller tournament between just those two clubs between the end of October and the start of January? Just a new thought to toss in the mix.

DragonHeart · 09-25-2006, 12:32 PM

Well, why not use the mercenary club as mercenaries? If any club can't fill their ranks with all four team members, use the mercenaries to fill the ranks. That would still leave an open bracket for non-allied participants, and if all the clubs do fill ranks the mercenaries have their own bracket.

Makes sense to me, though I'm not sure how it would work exactly. Just my thoughts on it.

~DragonHeart~