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Old 05-25-2006, 11:21 AM Level: 58   HP: 1446 / 1446
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Want to die? Lethal injections for all!

Okay, perhaps not.

But...

Has anybody heard about this? I heard about it quite a few years ago, but it's not legal in many places. I've heard that terminally ill people and people who have lost faith in life can get an injection to kill them painlessly. I don't know much about this though, I was going to ask if anybody around TFF was familiar with this.

I heard that it's legal, somewhere in Europe, and given to people who were willing to pay for the lethal injection.

If anybody has heard about this, please, enlighten us?
Should this be legalized in more areas?
Also, what does everybody think about lethal injections to set people free?

Personally, I think those whom are terminally ill and with all or no mental grasp on what is happening has the right to die if they are in pain or are unable to cope with the death looming over their heads.

As for suicidal people... I think they should be allowed to as well. If they want to be set free, but can't do it themselves, I feel they should be able to choose to die by means of lethal injection.

I think lethal injections SHOULD be legalized in more places then the few I have heard of.

Anyway, I won't post anymore of this unless I get some input... What do you guys think?
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For terminally ill patients, those who have a lot of suffering ahead of them I mean, and those who no longer have any mental grasp on life I have no problem with. If they want it done (though how a mentally disabled person makes that decision, I don't know) then let them have it done...

As for suicide... what's the point? An overdose is simple enough to achieve, and if people want to end their lives that badly then they should be able to do it themselves. Getting somebody else to do it for you shows that you're not ready to die. Also, getting somebody else to do it for you is still suicide, no matter how you see it, you're still the cause of your own death only less strong for doing so. Don't make other people end your life for you. Suicide is bad no matter what in my opinion, as it hurts more than just the person committing suicide. It also hurts the friends and the family...

Lethal injection for terminally ill people though, those who can't live with the pain, I have nothing against. I heard of somebody who did it, and they were left in a room with their family and friends to talk to while they slowly slipped away (don't know if it's the injection, I think it was). It was a sad story.
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They sounds pretty upsetting.

I've watched people die in my life, seen many die from suicide, and many from cancer. The cancer patients are always the worst... You can see their pain so easily, and treatment can be so hard to go through. Loss of the immune system, as it is broken down and re-built. I know a lady who lost her hair, and she said that was one of the most upsetting things for her. She did actually get over the cancer, but I've been around others whom haven't.

I used to visit people a lot in a hospice. I had this idea that if I spent time with dying people, whose families never visited, it would pick up and lift their final days.

I think lethal injections should be open to anybody who wants them. For the price that was set wherever... Everybody should have a choice whether to continue life or not. That's what I think, anyway.
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Although I dont agree with assisted scuicide, or scuicide at all for that matter, I have heard that it is leagal to obtain such a drug. I suppose this brings back the question of, What is more cruel: A life as a terminally ill patient or no life at all by choice. Its sad to think about and even harder to grasp just what would drive a person to such a thing. What problems could be so bad that a person ends their life. I dont know, its hard to say these things.
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As my memory tells me, Holland has legalized euthanasia.

It's not for everyone, of course. As rational as chosen death can be found rational.

But for suicidals, no. I don't think it should ever become a "I dont feel like living inject me now plz" but a serious decision discussed with family/relatives if you're say, a cancer patient in endless pain in a terminal phase.

Yeah I'd want that too little buddy.
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...All this sounds like another generation of Doctor Kavorkien (sp?) to me.
For the terminally ill, I can understand. But for the suicidials, it's like I said... Dr. Kavorkien of the next generation. =(
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I was a self harmer for a while, to relieve stress, and I have been suicidal in the past. Many times, I think I would've given up life -- it's sad to hit that low. If anybody else felt that way, I guess I'd want to tell them they wouldn't have to go through feeling depressed. Maybe my depression was because my upbringing was very shifty, though.

Good to know that others have heard of this, though. I say others, I mean Xantcha.
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If you want to die, use a gun, or jump off a cliff, or in front of a train. Going via injection is lame and anti climactic.

Of course it should be illegal. If you are terminally ill, you can kill yourself. There are plenty ways. But never should someone else be involved in your death. Too much of a sticky situation.
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Good to know that others have heard of this, though. I say others, I mean Xantcha.
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Interesting point Corruption. I can see it. But suicide is painful for surroundings. I'm not saying this isn't suicide, I'm just seeing that it's more of a medical decision, and family members will be informed, can say goodbye and whatnot. And it'll happen properly and painlessly (think of all the sucides gone bad).
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well the thing with killing yourself with a lethal injection is better than getting hit by a bus, but not every cancer patiant is able to get on the streets and when you do it with euthenasia (youth in asia, he he he) you will die with just that little bit more dignety, not to mention you can die with your family in a calm manner.
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When I was in grade 10, I did a project on Euthanasia for my Religion class (I went to a Catholic high school).

Anyways, to get a feel for what the class knew about it (we had to give a presentation about it) we did an oral quiz, asking people what they thought about Euthanasia. When we got back the papers of what people thought, majority of them said that they thought it was something to do with young people over in Asia. Yep. Euthanasia = Youth In Asia. Hahhahahahahahaha idiots.

I was conflicted on it back then, and I'm still conflicted on it now. Personally, I think that if someone is terminally ill, then they have the right. I wouldn't want to watch people suffer unneedlessly if they didn't want to. I believe that everyone has the right to die with a little dignity, so if someone who has lost the ability to walk/talk/feed themselves or go to the bathroom by themselves and want to die, I say let them.

What bothers me, is the parents who think they're doing the best for their handicapped children. I don't know if anyone remembers seeing on the TV about a guy who put his severly retarded kid (can't rememember if it was a girl or a guy) in the car and put the exhaust feed back in the car. That sort of thing bothers me. I mean, it should be the individuals decision, not someone else's.

Also, I 100% agree with this

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if people want to end their lives that badly then they should be able to do it themselves. Getting somebody else to do it for you shows that you're not ready to die.
Exellent point, and very true.
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i think yes, but ther are always going to be people who are prehaps forced to....or have they minds ****ed with etc, so its a touchy subject.
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