The DaVinci Code

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I've just finished reading it. I thought it was pretty cool.

Has anyone else here read it? What did you think of the things that the book talked about?

[-Xu-]

I think it was a pretty decent book as long as you don't take any of it at face value.
I go to a catholic school and still can't believe they banned it.

[Soulcloud]

sadly some people will believe it.

[RagnaToad]

A lot of things are based on actual facts, but then again, no one should forget its a NOVEL, not a history book

I believe some of it.. but not jsut purely from the book, i did some researsch and stuff

its perfectly possible that jesus was married and had chlidren.

no one can deny that Jesus was a totally deifferent person as we are told to believe, remember:

if your a true christian, believe in jesus, not in the bible

the bible was composed and edited in the 6th century A.C.

[Soulcloud]

The first time I ever heard of Jesus having kids was on the Comedy film Dogma. Now if you want to annoy teh Catholic chiurch, a film like that is the way to go!

[Asheis]

What is it that pisses the church off so much about this book?

Is the concept of Jesus having kids really such a horrible thing? It's been quite awhile since I read it, but seriously.. I've said this before... the bible is an entirely human creation, and while it's entirely possible that it IS the word of god, there is an obvious human slant to the whole thing.

As for taking the stuff at face value.. there are parts that Dan Brown just entirely made up because it's exactly as you guys say it is.. a novel! BUT! Much of what's in there is the theorizing of Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, and Henry Lincoln in "Holy Blood, Holy Grail". Granted, none of it is proven in that book, but they offer some loose evidence.

It's absolutely hilarious that people are getting so wound up about this though.. never does Dan Brown ONCE say that the Da Vinci code is non-fiction. The church really needs to lighten up!

[TomStrife]

I was literally about to start a thread on it directly before seeing this thread seeing how I recently had a bible study last night based on The Da Vinchi Code. The guy that presented it proved most of their theories wrong and told everyone to remember it is historical FICTION.

He also said that when people read this they are looking for one of two things:

1) A good mystery novel.
2) The feeling of comfort that God isn`t real.

Yes, this book is entirely fiction and most of the things Dan Brown comes up with are hilarious because of how stupid they are.

I particularly don`t give a crap about this movie, but alot of churches do seeing as it is a way to directly attack our religion and say all we believe isn`t real. Dan Brown is trying to get people to become Athiests.

Just in case anyone ACTUALLY BELIEVES this crap, the following statement will shatter all hopes:

The Priory of Zion was certainly a real movement. However, it started in 1956 by a French politician. Not in the 1000s.

I can try to prove some of these theories wrong however my knowledge of the book isn`t that great, because I refuse to give any of my money to Dan Brown whether it be his movie or book. I am getting a book that goes through The Da Vinchi Code and proves each theory wrong step by step.

All in all, this just seems like a anti-religious, controversial version of National Treasure. I has respect for Ron Howard until now.

EDIT: Oh and to add, Jesus did NOT have kids and He wasn`t married to Mary Magdelan. Just thought I would let you know. If you guys want me to back that up, I will be more than happy to.

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I'd love you to back that up, Tom

I don't believe any of the secret society stuff, but the things that were said about the Church demonising pagan religions, the things said about Jesus's life and the "Holy Grail" all seem pretty plausable.

I accept that the Church would do anything to vilify women and the reason that they're so threatened by the idea of Jesus livig a mortal life and having a wife and family would be because it [somehow] weakens their claim that Jesus was nothing less than Divine, especially considering his life as a Jewish man 2'000 years ago.

So yeah, the stories of the Priory of Sion and the Opus Dei were pretty entertaining fiction, but the story about the Sangreal and the Church's corruption of Pagan symbology and Pagan holy ground, I do believe.

NOWHERE in the book does it say that God isn't real - all it says is that the Church isn't the sole conduit to the divine, and THAT is what the Church fears so much - the threat of becoming obsolete because their stranglehold on civilisation is something they depend on too much.

[TomStrife]

No, it does say God isn`t real. There is a quote in the book that really ticked me off. I don`t remember it word for word, bit it went along the lines of this:

"All relgions are based on lies."

Unfortunately, I will wait until I purchase the book to back that statement up seeing how I might say something wrong and screw it all up. I`ll ask the guy who did the message to explain it but I`ll just list two facts:

1) Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that Jesus married Mary Magdelan.
2) Brown claims that he got his information from a passage from the Book of Phillip where he said "The Disciples were upset that Jesus was kissing Mary more than them" as in the "Blessing" sort I believe.

Why would the Disciples be upset if Jesus was kissing his wife?

Also, other than the DaVinci Code, only one book that has the same sort of plot was written that claimed Mary Magdalen and Jesus were married. Brown got sued for Plagarism seeing how the character that claimed Mary Magdalen and Jesus were married was the Author of the book`s name spelled backwards.

Nice coverup, Brown.

There is a theory Brown claims to be true that he basically pulled out of his butt. He has LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE to back this theory up:

"There were 80 proposed gosels. Only 4 were accepted."

What bull.

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"Nowhere in the Bible is it mentioned that Jesus married Mary Magdelan."

Well yes, because the Church prevented those parts of the Bible from being included and wanted to re-cast Mary in a bad way.

"There were 80 proposed gosels. Only 4 were accepted."

Well maybe 80 was an exaggeration, but The DaVinci Code isnt' the only place from where I've heard that kind of thing before.

Have you ever heard of something called the: "New Testament apocrypha"?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The category of New Testament apocrypha reminds the modern reader of the wide range of responses that were engendered in the interpreting of the message of Jesus of Nazareth during the first several centuries of the Common Era, as mainstream Christianity emerged. Obedient Christians were warned away from these works now termed apocryphal, many of which were vigorously suppressed and survive only as fragments. In the process of determining the Biblical canon, a large number of works were excluded from the New Testament. These New Testament Apocrypha are generally not accepted as canonical by mainstream Christian denominations, though the Ethiopian Orthodox Church recognizes the Shepherd of Hermas, 1 Clement, Acts of Paul, and several Old Testament books.

Books which are objectively known not to have existed in antiquity, such as the mediaeval Gospel of Barnabas, are usually not considered part of the Apocrypha.

There's a lot more on that page, too.

[Yuna 2003]

than miove look good

[TomStrife]

Originally Posted by Phat Chocobo

Well yes, because the Church prevented those parts of the Bible from being included and wanted to re-cast Mary in a bad way.

Prove it.

I do not believe that but neither one of us were alive then.

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Prove it? What are you twelve?

You prove that it wasn't. *poke*

While these sites may not provide conclusive proof of Jesus & Mary's marriage-like relationship, they provide some pretty strong evidence:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...ies/mary.shtml
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...53C1A9659C8B63
http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/5780.article
http://www.magdalene.org/faq.php
http://www.newagepointofinfinity.com...he_apostle.htm

[Asheis]

We don’t have enough evidence either way. There’s nothing to say that the bible writers didn’t censor or take out parts that they didn’t agree with, or parts that would make Jesus more human that they were comfortable with. Again, because these parts would have been taken out, there’s absolutely no proof that he ever WAS that way. Telling ANYONE to prove ANYTHING about a thousand year old book is ridiculous.

I hate to keep pointing this out.. the bible is at least a partially human creation! no matter how you spin it, the bible is going to greatly differ depending on the current world view! Even if the word came from god, if the society that WROTE the bible hates women, they'll make that incredibly present in their writings!