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You might want a better title for your thread than Kingdom Hearts 2 since it does say what the thread is about, let alone you do not really say what it is that the thread is meant to be about either. But I am guessing that you are intended it to be about the bosses and what was the hardest in the game. Well I would disagree and anyone that has played the Hades Cup will probably as well, Round 49 of the Hades Cup is hands down the hardest match in the game, Sephiroth looks like a kitten compared with Round 49. Simply because even Sephiroth would be beat, since he did get by three of the four enemies you fight. Cloud, Tifa, Yuffie, and Leon, all at once, all alone and only your magic to fight with you. No drive forms, no summons, nothing but your wits and skills against the toughest bosses in the game, not because one single one is as strong as Sephiroth in difficulty, but 4 together are far stronger than Sephiroth, plus in FFVII they beat him, so yeah, really. Do you expect anything less?
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Ahh, but level 49 isn't a boss...its a challenge. you face many bosses in the Hades paradox match, but individually I must agree that none of them compare to Sephiroth.
Now level 49, taken in net, is of COURSE an incredible test that would daunt the one winged angel...its just not a boss.
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Leon, Cloud, Tifa and Yuffie are unique enemies you fight, which is in essence what a boss is, it is just that you are fighting four of them rather than two. I would still consider them a boss fight since they are the only one of that time you fight, you do fight stronger versions. But that is true for all of the bosses you fight in the Hades Cup from Pete to Cerberus.
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Ya..i just barely beat it last night...and I actually lost all of my potions and was literally depending on Curaga...Stupid Berserk move almost killed me
I agree with Andromeda, the 49th match is the hardest match/ fight in the game...It's almost impossible to pull off a finishing move with Cloud and Leon using their huge swords and Cloud's Sliding Dash move.... |
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*shrug* its still not technically a boss fight. Boss is a singular term and thus would refer to one, thus four enemies would be a boss'es' fight. They may be the toughest 'bosses' in the game, but individually they're nothing.
I flew around and cast Thunder at Squall and Tifa till they died, then slaughtered Cloud with ice and Yuffie in straight melee. All I had to do was fly...there's much more skill involved in the battle against Sephiroth. It just doesn't stack up in my mind. Now had Sephiroth been thrown in with them, that would've been entertaining! I still just don;t think its a fair comparison...Sephiroth is some what an optional boss, but he's still a single boss. The 49th seed of the Paradox cup is excessively optional and you're dealing with four on one. *shrug* I dunno, I just don;t see it as a boss fight.
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So you do not consider the boss fight in Aladdin's world the first time around a boss fight? Because it is two enemies you face. A boss fight should not be declared one because you are fighting a singular enemy. Bosses are notiable because they are unique from the other enemies not to mention far stronger with their own abilities.
But Sephiroth really is nothing compared to having to fight four enemies. Seeing as you can beat him at a far earlier level, but just getting to Round 49 can be a challenge in and of itself. It is an endurance test, since the last ten rounds will test your abilities to fight and survive on nothing but your wits. It is about the same for Sephiroth but I found him predictable, though most enemies are predictable when you know their moves. It is just harder to predict and then react when you are dealing with four enemies with a varying level of attacks and abilities. Cloud does a good job making sure you cannot just simply fly yourself to a full MP meter like you can in all of the other battles. And Tifa and Leon are active in a launching attacks at you when you stand still, not to mention Tifa's attacks are hard to interupted and the orbs have a large damage radius. Yuffie is mainly dead weight other than to add on damage if you make the mistake of getting locked into a melee fight with one of them for any duration. Sephiroth it is mono a mono, so you are only focusing on one person, while insanely fast at times, it is a simply a melee fight a lot of times. I am a melee fighter, heck I never even used magnet until I found out that it does cool things like pulling enemies. So I rely on the keyblade to do my damage, magic is usually a waste of time for me, something left to Donald to spam. I actually never even saw Sephiroth's meteor attack I defeated him before he pulled it out.
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Cloud couldn't stop me from flying around and building my MP back to full. I dunno what you did about him, but avoiding him was as easy as holding down the square button for me.
No, the Frost and Lava Lords are a boss because they occur as part of a liniar storyline outside of the tournaments. As does Sephiroth. If you remember, the lords also summon the small 'fire' and 'ice' sprites to aid them. Are you telling me you count them as bosses because they happen to show up along with them? What is your criteria for being counted as a boss? Simpley being difficult to defeat? Then every seed in the Hades Paradox cup seems to be a boss fight to me...which is absolutely ridiculous.
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May I ask what exactly the last level in the game is? I think I'm at the end, but if there is a Hades Cup in KH2 as well, then I'm not. lol
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Level 99 is the highest you can reach in the game, but to get the Hades Cup you need more than just that, you need to cap out Summons and all of your Forms in order to get the Hades Cup.
And Anomaly, most of the monsters in the Hades Cup are normal monsters you fight through the game, they are just harder. Which does not make them unique. You should know that if you actually listen to each word I said. But every 5th or 10th round, since it does very from time to time in the cup, you meet a boss you fought before, they are just stronger versions. So when you fight Cerberus again, it is a boss fight, when you fight the Fire and Ice boss from Agrabah, its a boss fight, fighting Pete is a boss fight, and that goes the same for Yuffie, Leon, Cloud and Tifa, Hades, and all of the other bosses you fight in the Hades Cup. They are unique beings that have no other one like them, they just have a stronger versions, you never will fight two Hades at once, or two Clouds, or two Cerberus. You can however fight two Shadows or Neo-Shadows, because they are normal monsters, and thus are not unique.
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i think its sepheroth who has to be the hardest boss because if your not quick enough he can kill you at the beginning of the battle
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I didn't have any trouble with any of the bosses. The only one that made me angry was the Grim Reaper in Port Royal. I was so angry at the boss fight! i never want to see another gold coin again.
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Clouds just an optional adversary...you don't need to do the Hades Cup anymore than you need to max out your Form changes to beat the game. Thus he's not a boss and even if HE and the OTHER FOUR WERE, they still don't match up to Sephiroth in my opinion. They were a breeze. I had a harder time killing Pete with Titan cup rules.
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