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Abortion: Do you Agree or Not?
I am not going to share my opinion until after someone makes a post. I don`t want a post of my opinion to just fall to the bottom of the abyss of threads with no responses.
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Long answer: We've had many threads about this in the past, and no, I don't agree with abortion.
Even a small "blob" of almost nothing can feel the needle as it's "life" is taken away. I know I'm going to get bashed for this answer, but no. Now, I know we all have to think about the rape victims. Carrying a baby from a rapist for nine month after conception? I could never imagine it. I know personally though, if I was to get pregnant, by say, my boyfriend, I could not give our child up. Why? I know it'd effect me for the rest of my life. It's my body and I'll deal with the stress it undergoes. I know women who have had abortions and regretted it, that isn't to say some other women don't regret it. I just personally don't agree with it. Short answer: no.
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I think most people know what I'm gonna say here. I see no amount of "convenience" that's worth the life of a child. When fingerprints, heartbeats, and conscious responses form within a few weeks, there's no reasonable denial that it's a human life.
I don't have a problem with birth control, though. The way I see it, if you're "responsible" and "mature" enough to have sex, then you should be responsible and mature enough to have "safe" sex, and if you don't, you should be responsible and mature enough to deal with the consequences. Give birth, and if you can't raise it, give it up for adoption. The only -- I repeat, only -- case where I would support the choice of an abortion is if the mother's life would be in danger if the child was carried to full term. But that's very rare. The most common excuse, that I've seen anyway, is that abortions are mainly for teenage girls who wouldn't be able to support the child. This isn't true, first off. Second, that doesn't mean the child should pay with his or her life. There are four times as many couples waiting to adopt in America than women that have abortions, there's absolutely no reason the mother shouldn't give birth and give the baby up for adoption. EDIT: Chez mentioned rape victims. While I still think it's no excuse to kill the baby, I can't imagine the emotional trauma the woman would be going through for the entire term. I would still say to carry it to full term and give it up for adoption, but I would sympathize with the mother, and understand if she wanted the abortion. (Wouldn't agree with it, but at least understand the motives.)
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I agree with everything this smart guy just said.
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I say no...I think it is wrong to tell someone that they can not live, thus not giving the baby a chance to speak for itself. In this country we thrive on the freedom of choice an speech.....killing a human being defies both choice an the freedom of an individual...Would you like someone to kill you if you were not a tribute to society....an could not speak up for yoursef?
I believe women have a choice though, but the question was if "I "think it is right....No I do not. Baby's are humans an precious beings that it is are responsibility to nurture. Not only that, but I def. agree with the idea that you can have a baby an at least put it up for adoption! It may be hard if you are a rape case, but some women go through that during pregnancy whether or not they are in heaven or not. Even after...It is possible to hang on. Last edited by cheesevixen; 04-03-2006 at 05:15 PM. |
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PERSONALLY, I think abortion is wrong and would never support it. If someone came to me asking my opinion, I would certainly advise her to go through with the pregnancy, and attempt to raise the child (or at least give it up for adoption). POLITICALLY, I am pro-choice, because I also feel that I have no right to tell someone what he or she can and cannot do when it's not an illegal act.
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This has always been a difficult topic for me. I try to find a gray area, because I abhore black and white situations, but there is very little room for that on this topic. I feel that up until a certain point, abortion is not different than using the morning after pill. After that though, there's really no way around the fact that you are killing a human. I do make the exception at rape victims though. At that point, I feel much more for the woman than the potential human. Insensitive? Perhaps, but that's the way it goes.
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This is what I think "Abortion sucks" I mean all people care about is the " fun part" about making a baby and when they have to deliver it there like ow I'll just kill my baby, bottom line is that I think abortion sucks and really messed up.
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Regardless, I feel abortion isn't right -- it's not really our place to end a life. I've had friends and ex-girlfriends who were adopted and are some of the most amazing people I've ever met... if the mothers decided to just abort them I would have never met them, and frankly I think my life would be a lot different than it is now. |
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I've heard on the radio talkshows that of post-abortion women somewhere in the 90 percentile regret it, and another 45-50% become suicidal. Kind of sad.
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