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Old 02-14-2006, 04:19 PM Level: 28   HP: 111 / 678
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The Trophy Project!!

With the arrival of the new eStore, people quickly wanted innovation and thought about ways how to make something fun, but at the same time not crazy. My question of what was going to be added in the store didn't seem that fascinating; some advertisement space.

Almost all members of this forum are RPG'ers, who are used to a certain level of interactivity and freedom. I suggested some sort of new system for RPing, which was quickly compared to a RPG hack, that wasn't a great success in the past.

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To get to the chase: My other idea was that you could buy certain trophies from the store, completely at your taste and can show other members what you have collected. They will be icon-like, and all of them are recognisable by the standard FF-player. As there will be many of this, TFF will likely be the first to ever do this and thus it will be something unique.

The system is simple: Buy a trophy - It will be viewable in your profile and you can set a few up for display in your postbit. In this fashion, other TFF members will see, what part of FF you think is the most neatest.

For clarification: There will be an estimated 250 trophies for sale. Prizes are unknown by now, and it is possible some trophies are limited by certain achievements (Mainly posts, that you did in a certain section).

The 250 trophies will be divided into 6 categories, which also have subcategories (More about this later):

- Characters ~100
- Weapons ~ 25
- Magic ~ 25
- Summons ~ 25
- Bestiary ~ ??
- Special ~ >50

So, that's about all the useful info I've got for y'all right now. If there are any questions, feel free to ask and I can always use suggestions. For now, I just wanted to let you all know this project has officially begun. Creation of the first trophies will take place in about a week. They will probably not be for sale, as that would ruin the whole thought behind the idea. We'll start selling when a the main trophies are finished.

I will post updates here, to let you all know our progress...
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Sounds great! Really looking forward to it, all this hard work seems to be paying off bigtime!

Will your trophy total be displayed among your stats?
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This thread does not really belong in the Forum Announcement, since it is reserved for actual announcements rather than projects or plans. I will move this into the GC, if you think it should be here, contact me explaining why you think so.

And as for the project, I do not know how keen I am on the idea. It will probably look like equipment and items, which I am in favor of. Though if it is ending up like more of the title user colors and glowing names, then it will prove to be equally pointless.
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Andromeda, Fuzz and I told him to put the thread in Forum Announcements.

...so, I'm moving it back.

It has been discussed in the eStore thread for the past couple of days now, and we decided that moving it into its own thread would be better, so the eStore thread could go back to its other planning and bug-fixing.
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I'm glad we started a new thread for this project. I'm really looking forward to what you have in store for usd I-Mage.

As I said earlier, this really helps me out because I can focus on the back-end coding for the database and eStore. Lets continue to expand our ideas with new thoughts/comments in this thread.

I think the hardest part will be coding the trophies that are only earned by posts in a specific forum. Like a RP trophie for users that have posted a certain amount of posts in the RP forum. I belive it is possible, I'm just not 100% certain on how to implement it w/ the eStore code thus far. I'm optimistic, especially since it will be a terrific addition to the eStore and activity for the entire forums.
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My only concern is that with these post-achievements will become more of a reason for users to spam and post useless topics. I am not one for quantity over quality.

I do have one question though: If these trophies are to be purchased for one's own taste to represent themselves to other TFFers, shouldn't post-achievement trophies be seperate? AND, isn't that what we have rank and Titles for? I think it would seem easier for Fuzz to just have an option to change your Title (exp. Black Mage) to something that represnts your favorite forum. Take me for example. If I post 250 times in FFVII forum, I would havethe option at the store to purchase a Title that said something lie... FFVII Mastermind... or something to that nature. That way, the post-achievements wouldn't be mixed up with the simple representation of users fav. hobbies and games, by being catigorized as a trophy or symbol. The post-achivevements would stand out more, and the trophies would just be collectors items.

This is just a though, but I would love to be able to have the meteor from FFVII along w/ FFVII Mastermind in place of Monk or Engineer. But then again, this could throw off the entire ranking system, and cause more problems and confusion as well... so, take it as you may...

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My only concern is that with these post-achievements will become more of a reason for users to spam and post useless topics. I am not one for quantity over quality.
The same was said about the rankings for post count, and it hasn't affected the forum in that way, as there hasn't been any change in the amount of spammers on this forum. So once again, I think this is a worst case scenario accumption that will never actually occur.

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I do have one question though: If these trophies are to be purchased for one's own taste to represent themselves to other TFFers, shouldn't post-achievement trophies be seperate? AND, isn't that what we have rank and Titles for? I think it would seem easier for Fuzz to just have an option to change your Title (exp. Black Mage) to something that represnts your favorite forum. Take me for example. If I post 250 times in FFVII forum, I would havethe option at the store to purchase a Title that said something lie... FFVII Mastermind... or something to that nature. That way, the post-achievements wouldn't be mixed up with the simple representation of users fav. hobbies and games, by being catigorized as a trophy or symbol. The post-achivevements would stand out more, and the trophies would just be collectors items.

This is just a though, but I would love to be able to have the meteor from FFVII along w/ FFVII Mastermind in place of Monk or Engineer. But then again, this could throw off the entire ranking system, and cause more problems and confusion as well... so, take it as you may...

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That would totally eliminate the purpose of the ranking system. You'd basically change your rank to something relative to the forum you posted alot in. May as well not use the user ranks then, since you could make different ones based upon who posts where on the board.

I have to disagree with this idea, and yeah...I'm sure it has alot to do with the fact that I made that rank list and I don't want it to be customizable for anyone, or that will eliminate it's original design and deter too much from the hierarchy of the ranks as well as the final fantasy theme.

I don't like the FF VII mastermind title either, just because you post alot there doesn't make you a mastermind, and what if others want the same title? Then you'll lose the ambiguity of being the only one who has it, then people will want different ones to be different, * repeat endless cycle *

That's what your custom user title is for.
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I'd also have to disagree with that idea, like Cobain. I think Inferno Mage has a large majority of this already planned out. This thread is primarily to separate the previous conversation about this out of the eStore thread, that's all.

While it is a good idea, Biggs, I think it would interfere too much with our current setup.
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@Cobain- I understand completely. Your compliance with the intire idea was somewhat presumed negative. I just felt like tossing the idea out there, seeing as it does me no good to just think of it, and then forget it. Then again, it doesn't help anyone else out either...lol

@Loco- I also understand that I-Mage has a large majority of pull with this issue, being as it is him creating the trophies, not myself. My ideas are just that... ideas, and most of the time, they are useless and meaningless, and cannot be used as a base of anything productive.

I will allow others to do the thinking and invention of ideas, because I am smart enough to know when I am beyond my limits. I am thought out... and will retire to my usual posting, which consists of spam and hatred towards most other members...0_o
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i like the sound of it,
i mean i apparently joined when your estore just came up and running and the upgrades that you are doin for the site are very high class and sound better than any of the other upgrades on other peoples sites

so, well done guys!
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I like the idea Biggs has a little. The titles should be chosen in a way. Let's say you could pick one title out of three every time you upgrade. And every route you choose has a different pattern. So, to make it very clear what I mean: Think back at what Fable had, the dark side and the light side, and everything in between. Only now it's with titles.

Although that idea has little to do with the trophies, it's still nice and gives more variety to the Forums. I'll have to hear what Cobain has to say about this.
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i like the sound of the way things are goin guys, u seem to be doin some hard work on the site

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Nice idea, I can't wait till it comes out. Here are my ideas, if possible:

1) Class Upgrade
Everytime you are upgraded into a new class you will learn a skill related to that class you are in. Even though you just a learned a skill you can still keep the previous skill(trophies). Example If you are a Blue mage you would have a monster skill trophy, and when you are upgraded into Dragoon you will earn the jump skill trophy.

For weapons you will be able to equip certain weapons depending on the class you are in. I'm not sure how it will work, but you can change the idea.

- magic/summons/special/weapons

2) Tiny Upgradable FF Sprite
This idea has to deal with the character trophies. The tiny FF sprite will be shown on your status bar, or just under your avatar. The sprite will have equipment showing on it depending on the weapon trophies you have. This will probably increase the individuality for each member, plus it would look cool to have a character of your own.

I hope this helps!
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