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Old 12-28-2005, 05:01 PM Level: -INF   HP: NAN / -INF
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Question What's Love and a Girl friend/Boy friend???

(I think this topic goes here, unsure. Someone can move it if it doesn't go here.)

I've noticed that everyone claims to have a Girl Friend or Boy Friend. I really don't care, it's there life, unless the person they were with was dangerous or abusive, I would at least say something. Though that's not my point.

People have told me they had a Boy/Girl Friend in 5th grade. That they were dating in Grade School. They may believe it's a Boy/Girl Friend, but that is way too young to even be thinking about that. I find teenagers and kids are throwing away their childhoods, where you sit outside all day pretending your saving the world or something. I mean most kids do that when young. But instead they worry about dating. A Boy or Girl Friend is some one you love and should want to be with for... life and perhaps marry. Is that not what a Boy/Girl Friend is? Please explain your views on that when posting.

It seems everyone is confusing a good friend or a close friend with a Boy/Girl Friend. One month you say your "dating" this Girl and the next your looking for a girl to go out with. That's not even a friendship. Basically I'm saying people claims that if they have a friend of the opposite gender it is their Girl/Boy Friend in which they are dating. But can they say they love that person and mean it? I understand young adults have true Girl/Boy Friends, loving each other, but Middle Schoolers, Grade school? That isn't so...

So what is love? Do you believe that people tend to falsly claim they have a Girl/Boy Friend when truthfully it's just a good/close friend, or perhaps just someone they're using? Post your views, mine are pretty clear.
      
 
 
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I love my Mother but I'm not gonna tell people she's my girlfriend. And guess what! I've loved her for as long as I rmember. So don't be going around telling people they don't know what love is because everybody loves someone no matter how young or old they are. =P

Uh.

People always question "what is love". I'll tell what love really is. Love is a perception. Different people perceive love in different ways.

I love Final Fantasy VII. I love my Mother. I love my best friend. I guess you can't really say what that is. A special feeling you have towards other things you know. I have special feeling toward lots of things. And I can totally use love as a word to describe those special feelings. That doesn't mean those feelings are love. Just a perception.

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lol. I suppose you got me there. I'm sure a good deal of us loves our family. I guess we all have different meanings for love and sometimes feelings can't really be described in words. Ok well maybe what I was aiming towards was more... "Can someone say they love their Girl or Boy friend and mean it?"

It easy to say you love your family, most the time, because it is natural and just comes. Unless there's family feuds, but that's a whole different story. I might have centered this topic too much round the question "What is love?" instead of my first question. That I asked above and also in my first post.

Or rather another question, it may fit better. You can love a friend, I love my friends and I would be sad if something happened to them. Good friends and Girl/Boy friends are different. But can one commit their life to a Girl or Boy friend? If not isn't that person a close friend, someone you like being around but perhaps wouldn't spend your life with.

By the way, I really agree with you about love, らぐなろけ. You made a strong point there. Thanks.
      
 
 
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The Greeks had three different words that correspond to our word "love": Philios (sp?), Agape, and Eros. The first refers to the attatchment between family members; the second is strong emotional attachment at a platonic level (i.e. a friend, or your friends in general); and the last one is romantic love - what we'd consider boyfriend/girlfriend love. It's possible to feel all three at the same time. As far as what constitutes each... well, that's for everybody to figure out on their own. It's also going to be different for everybody, so if somebody does figure it out, don't take their word for it because their answer may differ a lot from the one that is correct for you.

Anubis, I agree with you on the second question; (in my opinion) romantic love requires a lot of patience, commitment, and acceptance, and there is a certain maturity level necessary to develop those. I've seen people dating in middle school; often those people are at each others' throats a week later. People often start in high school, but it's rare that those people are still together more than two years. I find that while people want the benefits of a boyfriend/girlfriend, they are often not prepared for the responsibility involved.

But don't take my word for any of this. Like I said above, it's up to you to decide for yourself what's up with "love." Besides, there are people out there who have been in relationships far longer than I have, so they should be the ones talking, not me.
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Of my own personal opinion, there are two such basic emotions; Love and Hate.
Hate is easy to define, isn't it? It is such a blunt emotion. Love, is so much harder, because of the intensity and the complexity that comes with it.

You can say you hate someone. And, more than not, you will continue to dislike that person until something is changed. Though, to love someone, requires a greater deal of patience, time and determination. Hate someone and then you can leave them alone; a chance of being away from that person. Say you love someone and you are required to stay with that person because of what you said.

To be honest, none of us know what love is. We have a concept, our own perceptions of it. But that is all what love is, a feeling that everyone has their own opinion of. We can almost all generally agree what Depression, Anger, and Sadness is. But when it comes to Love, isn't it a tad different?
Love can come into different levels. I love to play video games, it is an activity that I enjoy. I love my friends, they are people who I can relate to. I love a guy named Ryan Kiegel (and if any of you know him, DON'T tell him that XD)...why? Because I feel a close bond to him that I cannot explain. Is that what the highest level of love is? A close bond to someone? But, don't we feel close bonds to other people as well as that special someone?

I agree with both Anubis and awall, love cannot be found within Middle School. They cannot know the definition of love, their inexperience with life cannot even begin to comprehend what love is. They like the other person. Not love.

Maybe love is something that you would die for? I don't know. I'm terribly sorry for this long ramble.
      
 
 
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I tend to think people mix up love and like...too often. It's just a word they toss around, nowadays. People date for two weeks, say they love eachother. What bullcrap. People say they love spaghetti, love Family guy, love biking.

Geez. There's a complete difference between liking something and loving it. To put it in a way most understandable, would you give your life for a plate of spaghetti because you love it? Not that that situation may ever happen, or that love means you have to sacrifice your life, but I'm trying to make a point here.

Like and love are too similar, but very different feelings. Like changes more often, is easily defeated, doesn't last as long as other things.
Love takes time, commitment, patience. Of course, love is a different experience for everyone. But I think everyone may agree it is long lasting, makes a person capable of overcoming difficult odds that may otherwise seem too hard, makes a person feel good.

I like playing games. I like melon. I like reading books.
I love my mother, and my brother.

For me, there's that difference.
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I hate people on msn that have to have 'I (L) whoever' in their name. That shit is ridiculous

Umm, I know what you mean by the whole age thing. 10 year olds aren't old enough to even capable of dealing with an errection let alone a stable relationship

Hah, yeah they love their parent's, but you can't say a 10 year old girl saying she loves a boy around the same age. It's just one of those childish phases we all (I'm assuming this) went through. I think when the kids get curious as to what love is, they start pretending they feel it for someone they believe is attractive ^.^

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Who says that everyone loves their parents? o.O

I've been in a few relationships, my first first relationship when I was in the Ninth Grade I believe? Or it may have been the Eight Grade? Ah to Hell with what I remember, it was when I was pretty young; and I thought I loved the guy. But, come to find out, I didn't. I thought I knew what love was but, really, I didn't.

I really find Lady Ambika's opinion to be something I can agree with completely. The part about the general meaning, the definition that almost everyone can come up with. Universal agreement. ^-^
Her explanantion of Love and Like is very good also.

A high level of love would be to completely open yourself up to a person. Have it to where they are a person who could ruin you at a moment's notice, but they choose not to because of how they feel for you. I mean, I love my friends, but I wouldn't tell them all my secrets. I wouldn't give them a reason to back stab me. And if I liked someone, such as an acquaintance; there would be only a few things they would know.
To Love someone, really, is to accept their differences and not care; truly, for what they are. If you Love someone enough, their flaws are not that much of a trouble for you.


You know, Jet, that bothers me too. ^0^ And you don't talk nonsense, you have some very decent points.
      
 
 
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Depends. I had my first crush on a boy I knew when I was like, 10. But I knew even back then I just had a crush on him.. D'uh, it's easy.

Romantic love feels different. Haven't you ever been in a relationship where you're heart races everytime you see/hear from/get a phone call or an email from?

My view on love is pretty much simple. You like that person more then a friend and you want to be around them. Go further then you would with a best friend.

Dunno about you, but my best friend is a 6ft, bush-haired, 14 year old Goth bloke whose name is Xander, and to be honest with you, I don't even want to think about catching him naked or ****ing him. (Plus, I'm not into younger men, persay, OMGLOLZWAFFLIEZ!)

To be honest with you, I feel its' the persons feelings. Sure, maybe ten year olds are messing around and having crushes on each other, but really, who gives a ****? I'm in my mid-teens and I've been with the same guy for coming up for a year... are you saying length of relationship determines the maturity of the two partys' involved? I think you are, what with you all seeming to comprehend the 'we went out 4 tooo dayz lolz' ... it's not always like that.

I know this couple who are 26, and they've been together since they were 14.

Feelings and people vary...

Love varies. <--- (gay line to remember.)
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There are always exceptions to things. Just because there is one couple that has been going together since they are 14, and they are now 26, doesn't mean that it is a common occurrence. And, the length of a relationship doesn't necessarily MEAN anything toward the maturity of the two people going out; but it does help and does suggest toward other people how much they feel toward each other. If someone hears of two people going out for twenty years, their natural assumption is to think, "Oh wow, they really do enjoy each other." If you heard of someone going out for a week, people will think that they couldn't get along and that they didn't "love" each other.
So, it doesn't justify the love and maturity of the couple, but people do view on that sort of thing.
      
 
 
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Which was my point. I wasn't directing that at you -- I was directing it at the most typical view most people have these days. I'm in my mid-late teens, - I don't really care if people do or don't believe I'm in love with the guy. I enjoy being in his company, being around him and I have feelings stronger for him then I do any other person - thats enough for me to stay and be around him. I love him - doesnt matter if other people believe it or not. Doesnt matter to me if everybody knows what type of 'love' I'm talking about. Everyones' different.
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I'm sorry Chez, if I sounded rude; I didn't mean so. ^-^
I do see your point and I respect it; every has their own different definition of love and they should seek out their own terms and not that of anyone else's.
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