Weapon or the Wielder?

[Simply"Kit"]

A simple question which relates to all FF characters! which is more important the weapon(equipment,magic,summon...etc..) or the wielder?

For my part it should be a succesful combimation of both,A weapon no matter how powerful must hav a weilder/master.But both must have equal understanding upon how the master should use this power wether for good or bad.Peace Out!!


What profit is it to a man,

If he gains the whole world,

Yet looses his own soul...

Mathew 16:26

[LocoColt04]

Since you stated that this relates to all FF characters, I've done you the liberty of moving this thread to the "General Final Fantasy" section. From now on, check around a bit before putting up new threads, as most things have a place.


In regards to your topic, I think the character (the wielder) is the more important of the two. In a lot of the earlier FF titles, many weapons could be equipped by multiple characters. Equipping the strongest sword on the strongest character makes the other melee characters seem obsolete. If that's ever the case, I try to balance it by giving the weaker characters the strongest weapons, and the stronger ones the weaker weapons.

Besides, if there weren't a wielder, who would control the weapon in the first place?

[Jin]

I agree, the character is far more important. I mean, sure you get unmeasurable attacking capabilities, but unfortunately there is more to the game than that. Shitty character, low speed. Enemy goes first, bam, character with a good weapon (but no defence) is dead. Sword seems useless now. Same goes with magic and other things of the sort. Character needs to have more stats than just attack.

[awall]

I agree with what has been said above, hence my vote follows theirs. However, just for kicks I think I'll play the devil's advocate and point out that the weapon occasionally plays a pretty big role. Let's look at every fangirl's favorite bishonen villian, the long-silver-haired world-destroying insane Sephiroth. Can you really say he'd be the same ultimate villian he is if he was equipped with a dinky little knife? Or else, god forbid, a gun?

And then, what about Rydia? There's something about a badass chick toting a whip that makes you really appreciate the designers of IV. I mean, sure her attacking was crap compared to her magic, but the whips weren't about attack power... they were about style, man.

And lastly, we come to the ultimate, all-powerful, Orlandu "T.G. I-can-kick-your-butt-blindfolded-in-a-darkened-room-using-only-my-teeth" Cidolfas. Who, powerful as he may be, gets at least half of that from his Sword. I mean, look at that thing! Orlandu may be godlike with or without it, but you give it to any other character, and that character turns into twice the powerhouse that they were before. You simply can't ignore the fact that in this case, the Sword (notice I've been capitalizing it here... it's that good) makes the man.

Eh... okay, I'm done now. I agree that in theory the character is more important, but there are some times when you just can't ignore the weapon.

Originally Posted by Jintatsu

I agree, the character is far more important. I mean, sure you get unmeasurable attacking capabilities, but unfortunately there is more to the game than that. Shitty character, low speed. Enemy goes first, bam, character with a good weapon (but no defence) is dead. Sword seems useless now. Same goes with magic and other things of the sort. Character needs to have more stats than just attack.

I agree with Jintatasu shitty character then it doesn't matter how good the weapon is is the Enemy get more hits coz charecter is slow,and weak there for charecter is more important than the weapon.

Stupid Question, sorry but it is

Anyone can hold a sword but its upto the user on how to swing it etc.

It is only dependant on the weapon when both users are equally skilled

I say the wielder. If he has good skills, he could turn even the simplest weapon destructive in terms of how he uses it.

i don't really care who the weilder is, if the weapon looks cool, it will probaly be stronger than the wielder. with out the weapon the weapon, the weilder is nothing.

[SilverDraco317]

I agree with most of the people here. The wielder is easily more important. Great example: Look at the weapon Cloud uses on FFVII. Do you honestly think an ordinary person could use that? No way in hell! However, Cloud has been trained how to use that Buster Sword of his with ease. See? A powerful weapon in the hands of a weak user is just as weak as the user. A weak weapon in the hands of a strong warrior could be equally useless, but, when used with skill, could be a potent weapon. A strong weapon with a strong warrior (like Cloud) could be completely unmatched in battle. So the WIELDER must be SKILLED and POWERFUL enough to even USE the weapon.

[Plastik Assassin]

Wielder definitely. For reasons already mentioned. More important i would say is environment. Couldnt do much damage in space or in the middle of a volcano now could ya?

[Simply"Kit"]

**Okay let me lay it out ot you guys as simple as I can...We all agree thet the term "Weapon" represents the following...items,spells,armour,weapon,summon etc. ok...anything to aid the hero.As most of you say the wielder is more important right?!.....

*Let me put it as simple as this way...are you saying that Picaso,Michaelangelo,Rembrent etc...with all their talents would still achieve their ultimate goals as an artist without their paint brush?Or a carpenter would be able to build a house without his hammer/tools?Or in the Game,Cloud would fight his way through without his materia,buster sword,summon's...etc. Or Squall would win against Gravier without his Gunblade,magic and summon?...I think not my friends...

*So I stand by my opinion that it must be a succesful combination of both the master/wielder and his trusted weapon! Hah! Done deal!
HAHAHA

[Morik the Rogue]

While you have something with the 'successful combination of both' thing, the wielder is in fact the only thing that really matters. Take the lightsaber for example. Without a doubt ther greatest weapion ever. In the hands of a Jedi it can lay low whole armies, but in the hands of a regular person, thier more likely to sever their own arms than actually hurt the enemy.

A weapon is only as effective as the person wielding it.

Oh and comparing the artists to warrior is a little off in my opinion. And bear in mind, Tifa, Zell, Sabin and others who did just fine without a weapon.

[Lordofdragons]

equipment does could a lot but player lvl is a big factor.