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Old 09-03-2003, 08:00 PM Level: 15   HP: 10 / 357
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Space....and its many mysteries have boggled many minds for centuries. The world has sent satellites and shuttles to observe and try and crack these mysteries. Every day humans are learning new information...so...how big is space, infinite or limited, and if it is limited what is at the end, and how did it come to be??
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Well, I'm a Christian so I think that God created the Universe to be unlimited. Take a look at Voyager 2 (You probably don't know what the hell that is), it is gonna pass Pluto in 2012 and will keep on going. If it hits some invisible thing in space that prevents it from going any further, that will be kinda messed up.

Ok... I did not explain it very well... uh...yeah...
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yes i am also a christian...a catholic in fact...and i believe in god...but there is always room for questioning....that is y the word faith comes into play.............................but there are thories, like the big bang theory
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hmmmm..........well I too believe in God the almighty and that he created everything and id have to say that yes, space is infinite.....id go into my theories but your head may explode.
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no no do ahead , my head was built for high intensity discussions....seriously....speak ur mind.........................go into ur theories............
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hmmmm ok then, ill water them down for everyone else.....ok space. No one knows how far it goes.....now lets say in the unlikely occurence that you reach the end of space....imagine it like one big room...the end of space being the wall....now that cannot really be the end because there has to be something at the other side of that wall.....and when that someting ends, theres gonna be something at the other side of that one.


some people believe that if you travel far enough out into space that you will end up back where you started....pure ludacris.
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Yeh, that ending up where you started thing is just some scientist's theory, and some people believe it. Maybe it is true, but theres no proof, and so no reason to believe it.

I believe space is infinate. Space is nothingness, and even if there is some thing surrounding space, there much be nothingness or something infinate surrounding that.
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"The universe is shaped exactly like the Earth, if you go strait long enough you'll end up where you were" -Modest Mouse

I like the idea of an infinite space better though.
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Yeh, that ending up where you started thing is just some scientist's theory, and some people believe it. Maybe it is true, but theres no proof, and so no reason to believe it.
General relativity predicts this as the overall structure of the universe. This theory explains a lot of other phenomena encountered in nature, so while there is no definite proof, there is indeed a good reason to believe in this as the 'truth' about the cosmos!

However, even though space is curved into itself like that, you can never reach the same spot by just continuing moving in a straight line: This because of the universe's expansion. There's two scenarios here:

1: The universe will expand forever: Space expands faster than you can go all around the universe.
2: The universe eventually stops expanding and contracts into a socalled Big Crunch: Due to the limited lifetime of the universe, you'll never have the time to go all the way round either.

Weird, right?
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i think there is an end to space, even with my catholic beliefs....i believe at the end of this universe there is a parallel universe bordering it...if anyone has the same thoughts post back....i love discussing the unpredictible
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I beleive the universe goes on Indefinately and the end is merely the end of the reach of the matter from the big bang created by an ancient penomina... but however is this really the end? because there is endless nothing at the end of what we know as the universe and this seemingly endless nothing may hide way beyond our sight and reach other universes which undegone similar and same phenomina's which brought matter into existance way out there... but however Ive never really asked myself the question of does it end but the question of how far out do the phenomina's take place and how often does this phenomina take place out there and how long has it been going on to understand the vastness of it all myself but its way beyond anything comprehendable I believe and we have yet to reach out to tap the resources of otherverses that exist way out beyond our own we still have yet to tap those outside of the planet even but it is necessary with conastant expansion however can the phenomina of all this creation be created again by mere people or what other forces created this anomaly, maybe potential forces contained energy created other energy's which became matter, but in that case this anomaly would not be unique then because the same potential force would exist everywhere else
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No one knows how far it goes.....now lets say in the unlikely occurence that you reach the end of space....imagine it like one big room...the end of space being the wall....now that cannot really be the end because there has to be something at the other side of that wall.....and when that someting ends, theres gonna be something at the other side of that one.
Thank god you watered that down for us. I don't think anybody would have been able to comprehend the complexity of a full theory...

Anyways, if I travelled in a spaceship and I my path crossed that of a planet, say mars, would that be the end of space?

No.

If there's going to be something on the other side, then space will never be considered complete. So you can't refer to such a wall as an end of space rather than a simple border between two areas of space.

I suppose if we couldn't get across such a border it would be considered an "end." But if we couldn't get across such a border, there will be no reason to even care about space on the other side. It has no effect on us and vice versa.

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1: The universe will expand forever: Space expands faster than you can go all around the universe.
One second. Are you referring to space here? Or just the matter inside of it? Anyways, if travelling in straight lines brought you further and then closer to your point of origin (circular motion) then what would travelling in a circular path do?

Plus, if the entire universe was created as a circular shape, wouldn't we be able to see the opposite end of the universe because of the light curving around past us?

Plus, if everything curves back towards the origin, there really can't be a big crunch because everything should be moving back to the origin gradually.

At that point, we'll be able to see the stars red shift differently, so we should have a warning before such a crunch would happen.

(At least we would if I thought that through right. It's been a coupla years since I've done any sort of astronomy)

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Even with your catholic beliefs?

If anything, the end to space theory supports your beliefs. If there's a parallel universe, it would be our heaven or hell.

Anyways, I hope you know what parallel universe is. It's not just a universe which stands next to another one. A parallel universe has a bunch of things actually correspond to one another.

All those sci-fi movies where there's more than one form of a guy as he travels through universes are referring to the parallel universe concept.
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Matter canneither be created nor destroyed. The same with energy.

Thus, from this principle, is where I go. While space, as in emptiness, might be infinite, I believe there's a limited area over which space will be spread. Even if the universe continues to expand outwards, forever and ever, we will, eventually, reach the totality of all the mass that was in the beginning will be reached. From there, the universe may expand, and all that expansion will be is nothingness. A deadzone, so to say, wherein you can look out with the strongest telescope that could ever be created and see just blackness. Space maybe infinite; matter and energy are not.
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